I think you should take into consideration travel time for non-Star Tour members when changing the meeting agenda and time for parts of it. It takes me 30 - 45 minutes to get to the meeting depending on traffic and 25 - 30 minutes going home after the meeting depending on traffic. It is not worth my travel time to attend a 25 - 30 minute meeting. In addition the calendar lists it as a public meeting so if non-members attend they may be disappointed in the schedule change. If this MOM is going to discuss the Star Tours and that part is a closed meeting then to be fair to the public and non-star tour members who have to travel a distance to attend the whole meeting should be closed and no other business should be discussed and the public calendar changed to reflect the change. The other business can be scheduled for another MOM since it does not seem to be as important.Paul From: "dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Monday, February 9, 2015 8:50 PM Subject: [pasmembers] Re: For the Meeting of the Minds this Thursday Feb12 - send discussion topics I agree that non Star Tour members not participate in the discussion, but that is why we are having the first part of the MOM be for everyone, and then the second half be for Star Tour members only and others can leave. Take care, Sam -----Original Message----- From: Eric Steinberg <eric@xxxxxxxxxx> To: pasmembers <pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Mon, Feb 9, 2015 12:54 pm Subject: [pasmembers] Re: For the Meeting of the Minds this Thursday Feb12 - send discussion topics #yiv6872985404 #yiv6872985404AOLMsgPart_2_b32db645-99af-490d-9202-b9aa67ae3ad8 td{color:black;} _filtered #yiv6872985404 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6872985404 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;} _filtered #yiv6872985404 {font-family:Tahoma;panose-1:2 11 6 4 3 5 4 4 2 4;}#yiv6872985404 .yiv6872985404aolReplacedBody p.yiv6872985404MsoNormal, #yiv6872985404 .yiv6872985404aolReplacedBody li.yiv6872985404MsoNormal, #yiv6872985404 .yiv6872985404aolReplacedBody div.yiv6872985404MsoNormal {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:12.0pt;}#yiv6872985404 .yiv6872985404aolReplacedBody a:link, #yiv6872985404 .yiv6872985404aolReplacedBody span.yiv6872985404MsoHyperlink {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6872985404 .yiv6872985404aolReplacedBody a:visited, #yiv6872985404 .yiv6872985404aolReplacedBody span.yiv6872985404MsoHyperlinkFollowed {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}#yiv6872985404 .yiv6872985404aolReplacedBody span.yiv6872985404EmailStyle17 {color:#1F497D;font-weight:normal;font-style:normal;}#yiv6872985404 .yiv6872985404aolReplacedBody .yiv6872985404MsoChpDefault {} _filtered #yiv6872985404 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv6872985404 .yiv6872985404aolReplacedBody div.yiv6872985404WordSection1 {} Hi – I think it’s a much better idea (and thought we had definitively agreed) for this specific discussion be for Star Tours members only. They are the only people who have enough experience to make good judgments about the issues. It is also not fair to have people who will not in any feel the effects of the decisions to be making or even having input to those decisions. Hopefully we can make this change. Terri? Thanks, Eric From: pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terri Sent: Monday, February 09, 2015 11:16 AM To: PAS Members ListServ Subject: [pasmembers] For the Meeting of the Minds this Thursday Feb12 - send discussion topics I hope to see all PAS Members at the Meeting of the Minds to start with. We will open up to the few topics that are not related to the Star Tours group topic, and then those who wish to depart for the night, may, and those who are IN the Star Tours Group or are interested in talking about it and giving their input or just listening, can stay. My guess is we will have a great turnout, and a lot of snacks to share. President Bruce will provide the bottled water, but please bring a snack to share and let's make this a party! What makes this a party? Food, Friends, Great conversation. Anyone is welcoem to attned, but if you bring someone who isn't part of the Star Tours Team or a PAS member, you might want to leave with them. So, consider not having extra folk with us at this meeting, this time. We will not be doing anything spectacular due to the topic at hand will probably be a minimum of 1.5 hour discussion (Star Tours Group). So, I'd like to devote most of the time to that purpose. I will update the MOM's Agenda so everyone knows what we have planned, in a day or so. Let's make this meeting productive, a party, and fun for all who attend. I'm attaching the Agenda, the way it stands right now, before revisions, and will probably send it out again, Thursday morning, revised to fit the needs of this meeting. We will see you there! Have a spectacular Monday! Terri, Event Coordinator If you are part of the Star Tours Team and you can't make the meeting, please be sure to read the review so you are up to-date on any changes, ideas, etc. I appreciate all input. The attached MOM's Agenda was from Jan 19 (last update). I will get that revised before the meeting, just not today. What I would like from the Star Tours Team is email me, not the group, a list of sub topics to talk about, specific to the Star Tours team topic. Example: How much to charge for star parties? School star parties Scout star parties etc... I want to make an organized list, and see if we can't put it into a format that can be discussed, and then if needed, voted on. We aren't really voting, we are agreeing to stuff. Your input is requested. So, break down your discussion ideas, and let's make a list of what we need to discuss, and i will put it into an outline, organized format for on the board, so we can stay within a topic at a time and finish it's discussion, before moving on to the next topic. Thanks for your help in forming this list. -- Good friends are like stars. You don't always see them, but you always know they are there. Terri Phoenix Astronomical Society Event Coordinator Visit the P.A.S. Facebook Page & My Facebook Page Visit my Music Page: Private Music Instructor & Music Facebook Page