This is a repost of my original from last Friday, with added commentary today highlighted. May I suggest we come up with some standardized method for determining rise and set times? The United States Naval Observatory produces comprehensive, correct output easily available on line. ________________________________ From: pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Eric Steinberg Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:51 PM To: pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pasmembers] Re: Looking for input about Black Mountain campus events for 2013 Hi- Feb 14th is good - there's enough moon to show but as you say, not so bright as to wash out the sky. Apr. 18th - moon is pretty bright and up all night. On the 11th, it will be a sliver that sets at 8:30 - still showable. Agree for the 11th. May 16th is similar. On the 9th, the minimal sliver will set at 7:16, but skies will be best for whatever planets and DSO's can be seen in town in May. Agree for the 9th. October 10th will have a crescent that sets a little before 11. This is probably not bad - we can show the moon early and other objects as it drops toward the horizon. The 10th could work for showing the moon a lot. The 24th is certainly darker. November 21st THE MOON RISES AT 9:01 PM, NOT 10:57PM that's Eastern Time. December 19st THE MOON RISES AT 7:47 PM, NOT 9:45PM (again, Eastern). Overall, it's a pretty good venue for in-town star parties - I'd be interested in more of them if you can set them up. Eric ________________________________ From: pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terri Sent: Friday, June 15, 2012 2:05 PM To: pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [pasmembers] Looking for input about Black Mountain campus events for 2013 Great input Eric. I'm thinking of swapping some of the choices I had made for 2013 Black Mountain Campus events so that we do fall in 3rd quarter moon time, allowing for more dark sky time and no moon in the way. Is that a good idea? Look over these dates, and give me input, please. These are Black Mountain Star Party dates. Some can be moved. See what I have written. This is based on Eric's suggestions. 2013 Feb 14, falls before 1st Quarter, so moon should be small enough not to be a bother. No other date to move it to. March doesn't' have a Black Mt star party at the moment. April 18 has Black mountain on the 1st Q moon, but i can move it up to the 11th, which will put it 1 day past new. Input? May 16 is 1 day prior to 1st Quarter, but we can swap it with the 9th if you wish. Input? September doesn't currently have a Black Mt Star Party. October 10 falls 1 day prior to 1st Quarter. Do we want to swap it for the 24th as that is closer to 3rd quarter, or is that 3rd Q in the way on that evening? Input? November and December do not have Black Mountain campus star parties at the moment, but if someone wants to figure out a Thursday that works well in those months, send it my way. I"m open for suggestions. Your input is appreciated. Thanks Terri, Event Coordinator for PAS Good friends are like stars. You don't always see them, but you always know they are there. Terri Phoenix Astronomical Society <http://www.pasaz.org/> Event Coordinator Visit the P.A.S. Blog <http://pasaz-digest.blogspot.com/> & My Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/people/Terri-Finch/1021922600> Private Music Instructor <http://betterfly.com/profile.php?user=MusicByTerri-2> , Ascent Vending Company Healthy, Wealthy & Wise with Acai Berry <http://drink-acai.biz/> ________________________________ From: Eric Steinberg <eric@xxxxxxxxxx> To: pasmembers@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 10:03 AM Subject: [pasmembers] Re: looking for input about events for 2013 Hi- I would definitely do all Black Mtn. star parties. The viewing at the main campus wasn't so good when I joined last October, and has deteriorated noticeably since then. Also, last quarter is much better than first quarter because of the rise/set times - at last quarter the moon rises around 10:30 pm; at first quarter it rises during the day and sets midnight or later... In fact, from about three days after full, until three or four days after the new moon, the viewing is pretty good. Eric ________________________________ From: pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:pasmembers-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Terri Sent: Thursday, April 26, 2012 9:39 AM To: PAS ListServ Subject: [pasmembers] looking for input about events for 2013 Good morning PAS Members & Jenny, I am working on the 2012 / 2013 season of events. Here's my question: How many Black Mountain Campus star parties do you want to do? What we usually do for PVCC Main campus is: 1 Indoor / outdoor astro event per semester w/Star Party (fall & spring) A MOM on every last Thursday of those months A PAS Meeting every 1st Thursday of those months Telescope Workshops, where we can fit them w/Star Party Then, what we did, was move all the "Just" Star Parties from the Main Campus to Black Mountain . We kept, this year, the rest of the activities at the Main Campus so we'd have G-147 nearby to use. So do we want to stick to 1 Black Mountain Campus star party each semester, or would I have the attendance needed if I put in 2 of those events, in one semester, if the moon phase was just right? And do we want those events on 1st Quarter moon, or do we prefer to have them at New or 3rd Quarter since we love how dark it is in that location? Remember, all events at PVCC Main or Black Mountain Campus are on Thursdays. Here's what i have so far: Spring 2013 January has 1 PAS meeting 1 Telescope Workshop - main campus 1 MOM Feb has 1 PAS meeting PVCC Black Mountain star party 1 Telescope Workshop - main campus 1 MOM That fills all Thursdays' in February March has 1 PAS Meeting 1 Telescope Workshop - Main Campus 1 Indoor astro event 1 MOM That fills all Thursdays in March April has - another Thursday filled month 1 PAS Meeting 1 Telescope Workshop - main Campus 1 PVCC Black Mountain star party 1 MOM May has 1 PAS Meeting 1 Telescope Workshop - Main Campus 1 Black Mountain Campus 1 MOM That's 3 Black Mountain star parties in one semester. Do we have the people who will want to cover this event and do you want it on which phase of the moon. I can shift these around if necessary. And i didn't list them in the order I'm putting them in the calendar, it is random. When I used to send out the event list, which included all public and private events, I"d get back, from the public, that we didn't have many public events, and they wanted more events they could attend. So, I quit sending the public, the private events as well, and cut their list to just public events. That solved the problem for a while. Now I"m being told I need to have events in Tempe and Chandler and Mesa . I'm ignoring that request. Anyway, the way to do public outreach, is have more public events. And the PVCC Black Mountain star party seems to be a big hit! If you don't mind several of them in a semester, with the knowledge that bad weather could wipe them out, then I'd like to have more of them available for the public. Just my thought. Plus all Telescope Workshops at PVCC main Campus are star parties, and the Indoor Astro events are also Star Parties. That covers just about 1000% of our activities with PVCC are public. The MOM"s is public but we don't usually get that many public attending, however, that is how we got a few of our members. Fall Semester 2013 September has 1 PAS meeting 1 Telescope Workshop - main campus 1 Indoor Event NO MOM October has 1 PAS meeting 1 Black Mountain star party 1 Telescope workshop NO MOM November currently has 1 PAS Meeting December has 1 PAS Meeting Your input is requested. I'm open for suggestions. Thanks for your input. Terri, Event Coordinator Good friends are like stars. You don't always see them, but you always know they are there. Terri Phoenix Astronomical Society <http://www.pasaz.org/> Event Coordinator Visit the P.A.S. Blog <http://pasaz-digest.blogspot.com/> & My Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/people/Terri-Finch/1021922600> Private Music Instructor <http://betterfly.com/profile.php?user=MusicByTerri-2> , Ascent Vending Company Healthy, Wealthy & Wise with Acai Berry <http://drink-acai.biz/>