Hi Clyde Your answer is what I had expected. Does Orcad still have that "feature" where on internal holes it floods over when the pad is set to undefined? Is your comment about countermanding a designers wishes how it was fixed? I guess there is no way besides manual to verify clearance on an NPT hole. Ron -----Original Message----- From: Clyde Sprowl [mailto:orcadlist@xxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 2:38 PM To: orcad@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [orcad] Re: Clearance on NPT holes I bet you that you have a non-plated hole there. For some reason, Orcad programmers changed the program so that when you create a non-plated hole with no pads, when you close the padstack spreadsheet, it adds pads to the front, rear and internal layers the same size as the hole diameter. In my opinion, the designer should never have his intentions countermanded by a computer program - especially when the program does not notify the designer what it did. Go back and look at you non-plated hole - I bet it has pads front and rear. "Miswald, Ron" <RMiswald@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:I have a design where the hole to feature clearance is set to 12 mils. The pad to trace clearance is set to 5. I have a 30 mil npt hole. Orcad 10.0 is ignoring the hole to feature (12 mil), and is using the pad to trace clearance (5 mil). In the padstack spreadsheet I tried changing the pad size smaller the 30. It would not accept a value less then 30. Currently I am manually looking for them. Is there a way to set-up so that this is automatically found during DRC check? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages!