I've never read any of Fabian's articles so this is a first for me. I thought he made some good points and from what I THINK I understood from the article, I tend to agree: 1. XML should not be used as a query language 2. XML is good as an interchange language between systems 3. SQL doesn't implement the relational model 4. A better language is needed to implement the relational model He does come across as being rather ascerbic towards his peers though. On another note: >>>> Incidentally, ?inapplicable values? are a red herring. They are an artifact of bad database design. There is only one kind of missing value ? unknown ? and as I demonstrate in the above-mentioned chapter, it can be handled relationally, without the huge problems of SQL?s NULLs. <<<< can anyone point to an example... mohammed --- Tim Gorman <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Has anyone else read the novel "Confederacy of > Dunces" by John Kennedy > O'Toole? Whenever I read something by Fabian > Pascal, I'm reminded of > Ignatius P. O'Reilly for his non-stop vitriol and > obsession for completely > irrelevant minutiae... > > > > on 6/28/04 4:32 PM, Paul Drake at > discgolfdba@xxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > straight off of /. (http://slashdot.org) > > I have not yet RTFA for these yet, (I will) but I > > wanted to get the first post ;P > > > > ok, here comes the fodder. > > remember to keep your mouth closed while chewing. > > > > Pd > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send email to: > oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > -- > Archives are at > //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > FAQ is at > //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------