Starting to get off-topic here, but regarding OFA, I unfortunately did not include a 4-digit version directory in the $OH path. I will be doing that on new servers. I also use a modified version of OFA where "/oradata" is not under $ORACLE_BASE. I spend a fair amount of time in the command line at some level of the "/admin" directory, whether it be scripting, maintenance, or looking through logs. I do not want to accidentally be anywhere near the data when I'm "rm"ing. In a related note, I also don't care for the redo extension of ".log", which Cary has kindly explained here in the past. So I use a modified OFA. I hope I've been "Thinking Clearly" :) and changed what parts of those wonderful guidelines that I determined needing changing for my installations. I think that's part of a DBA's duties. And now that I understand the reasoning behind the "/unn" naming in OFA (Cary's explanation), I'll probably be stepping away from it. For this install. Maybe not for the next one... "It depends" :) Rich -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l