Re: srvctl remove asm generates PRKS-1033 and CRS-0214

  • From: "Alex Gorbachev" <ag@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "William Wagman" <wjwagman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2007 13:59:56 -0400

Well, many hidden diagnostic features are there for Oracle support who
*supposed* to be qualified enough to use them. Unfortunately,
"standard level* support analysts don't seem to know anything about it
let alone how to interpret the results. This forces us, mortals, into
research and *grin* guessing what the output means.

Highly qualified analysts are extremely rare to step into SR. I feel
that highly qualified people don't stay long in standard support and
move on. In fact, I'm not sure (to say the least) that knowledge
sharing in Oracle Corp. is working very well between support and
development so the only way to decode some traces would be to get
someone from development who has a clue or research it but that's when
you have time. But hey, who of DBA's has that? ;-)

I wish someone from Oracle can prove me wrong. Please!


On 7/25/07, William Wagman <wjwagman@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



Greetings,

I would like to chime in and echo Charles' frustration with all the
diagnostics and ask if anyone has a reasonable approach to understanding
them. I too find them very complex and cryptic and on several occasions have
tried to understand them, really to no avail. Based on my experience and
from what I have seen expressed here it appears that not many Oracle
analysts are readily fluent with the multitude of logs and traces which can
be generated. Google helps but only to a very limited degree.

Does there exist somewhere, either on MetaLink, technet or someone's web
site a guide to understanding diagnostics in a RAC environment? Or am I just
dreaming?

Thanks.


Bill Wagman
Univ. of California at Davis
IET Campus Data Center
wjwagman@xxxxxxxxxxx
(530) 754-6208


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Subject: Re: srvctl remove asm generates PRKS-1033 and CRS-0214


Alex,

Thanks for the "hints"; I look at these as diagnostic hints, not subject to
the same limitation of guessing as say, problem resolution. *grin*

To that end, I am finding that I am easily overwhelmed by all the
diagnostics. What am I looking for? It seems to me that my Oracle Support
Analyst should setup an OWC and step through these diagnostics with me,
pointing out what I need to look for so we can both find the problem
together, and from there discover (not guess) a resolution.

When I use srvctl remove asm, what modules of CRS touched? Or rather, what
modules do I need to turn tracing on to get the whole picture? I can see how
the CRSOCR module would be relevant, but what about the CRSRES? Any more?

I have used SRVM_TRACE, but again, not knowing what I am looking for, I did
not discover much. Looks like crs_unregister returns an error, but I am not
sure why. Yet.

I will keep hitchhiking along this road. Thanks for all the feedback, from
all of you.





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