Re: skipping tables on export

  • From: Jack Applewhite <jack.applewhite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "Powell, Mark" <mark.powell2@xxxxxx>, "oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 17:02:11 +0000

Mark,


That's true. Fortunately we have a 64TB DataDomain system for our backups. It's 
a self-contained SAN that does compression / expansion automatically - gets up 
to 15/1 compression rates. All our ODA nodes have an NFS mount to it, so we do 
all our DP and RMan backups to it. Space is not an issue for us - no more 
gzipping required to save space.  However, the method to which you refer is 
certainly useful in normal DB server setups.

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From: Powell, Mark <mark.powell2@xxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 10:54 AM
To: Jack Applewhite; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: skipping tables on export

Jack, true I forgot to mention that a local database on the client is still 
required which is a major drawback, but you can sometimes use this alternate 
expdp approach such as when you have an export file space issue on the source 
server so I think it is worth knowing about.


From: Jack Applewhite [mailto:jack.applewhite@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 11:43 AM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; Powell, Mark
Subject: Re: skipping tables on export


Mark,



That MOS doc is somewhat misleading. The Client machine must have an Oracle DB 
to which you connect in order to do the export from the DB specified by the DB 
Link. You cannot us ExpDP to create a set of export files on a simple client 
PC, for example. A database with a Directory to which you have read and write 
privs on is always required.



We use DataPump extensively and do huge Exports/Imports across DB Links. It's a 
great, great utility. I'm working right now on a PL/SQL package giving all our 
developers the ability to backup and restore selected objects using the 
DBMS_DataPump supplied package. It's taken a ton of reading the docs and 
Googling to work out the correct syntax for all the procedures, but the results 
are really slick.



HTH
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Jack C. Applewhite - Database Administrator
Austin I.S.D. - MIS Department
512.414.9250 (wk)
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From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
<oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> on behalf 
of Powell, Mark <mark.powell2@xxxxxx<mailto:mark.powell2@xxxxxx>>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 8:35 AM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: skipping tables on export

I have not done this but I believe that

You can run expdp from a client writing the file to the database server
You can run expdp from a client and write the export file to the client

Based on the following Oracle support note: How To Generate The DataPump Dump 
File On The Sever Or On The Client Machine (Doc ID 1385324.1)

HTH

From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mladen Gogala
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:09 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: skipping tables on export

The only capability of the good, old exp/imp that I miss is the fact that I can 
no longer perform it on the client side.


On 01/27/2015 06:31 PM, anthony Sanchez wrote:
I have a encountered this before, and the segments that were skipped were 
indeed the deferred ones.  I used the scripts here to create the segments prior 
to export.

http://mruhtel.blogspot.com/2012/03/oracle-11g-and-export-empty-tables.html

 You can also use data pump which is far superior to import/export in my 
opinion.

Regards,
Anthony Sanchez

On Tue Jan 27 2015 at 2:37:57 PM Jure Bratina 
<jure.bratina@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jure.bratina@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Probably because of deferred segment creation: 
http://oracle-base.com/articles/11g/segment-creation-on-demand-11gr2.php . exp 
doesn't export such objects, whereas DataPump does.
Regards,
Jure Bratina

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:28 PM, Don Seiler 
<don@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:don@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
If you're on 11.2 I would definitely get familiar with expdp/impdp.

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:25 PM, Zelli, Brian 
<Brian.Zelli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Brian.Zelli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Don't have the log and I was using the good old exp........could that be the 
problem?

Brian


From: Don Seiler [mailto:don@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:don@xxxxxxxxx>]
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 4:22 PM
To: Zelli, Brian
Cc: oracle-l (oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>)
Subject: Re: skipping tables on export

Can you post the log of the export operation, and the parameters or parameter 
file you're using? I assume you're using expdp (data pump)?

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:18 PM, Zelli, Brian 
<Brian.Zelli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Brian.Zelli@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I exported my prod schema to import into a test schema.   It seems to be 
skipping tables while I am watching the import.
I've never had that happen before.  Why would it skip on export?  11gR2 on 
HPUX......


Brian


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