Thanks. I am pretty sure that this is the case. thank you Gene Gurevich "Roman Podshivalov" <roman.podshivalo To v@xxxxxxxxx> genegurevich@xxxxxxxxxxxx cc 07/25/2008 03:10 oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx PM Subject Re: shutdown immediate Hi, I saw this happening in the scenario like: - there is a long running transaction running in the database - somebody shutdown abort the instance - startup - shutdown immediate right after the startup when we still have instance recovery running In such situation shutdown immediate will wait until instance recovery completes. --romas On 7/25/08, genegurevich@xxxxxxxxxxxx <genegurevich@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Hello. I am trying to shutdown immediate a database (10.2.0.3). Normally it takes couple of minutes. this time it has been running for about 25 min. When I look at the alert.log, I see already 4 log switches ( I have 3 logfile groups) and I wonder what could be the reason it is taking such a long time. I also don't remember seeing all the logswitches after the shutdown immediate. Would appreciate any thoughts thank you Gene Gurevich -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l