How do you extract these values? Just a simple select query or some GUI tool? The seconds_in_wait column *physically* stores the *wait start time* as seconds from epoch in the memory location. And when you query this column in SQL, the underlying x$ reports the *current SGA time* - *wait start time*in seconds. Up to 10g, the current SGA time is mainained by LGWR and in 11g+ by VKTM. Any non-SQL & direct SGA access approaches should account for that... -- *Tanel Poder* Enkitec (The Exadata Experts) Services <http://enkitec.com> | Training<http://blog.tanelpoder.com/seminar/> | Troubleshooting <http://blog.tanelpoder.com/> | Exadata Book<http://www.amazon.com/Expert-Oracle-Exadata-Apress/dp/1430233923> On Thu, Jan 9, 2014 at 10:03 PM, John D Parker <orclwzrd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > no offence taken! I hadn't thought about the epoch. ok, so how does the > epoch get in to the seconds in wait column for a row in v$session? oh and > I've confirmed this on a exadata as well. truly bizarre! > > Thanks! > >