test/dev instance...7445...."other 920 databases" (which full = versions?)...due to....what? Usually there's *something* in the u/bdump traces that indicates root = cause. Is there some=20 reason you've assumed the cursor caching is causal (as opposed to = coincident)? Some questions that come to mind. - what are full versions of other DBs? - any other trace files concurrent? - when was session_cached_cursors changed on the test/qa box? - how long was parameter in play before the 7445? - was the instance under steady, sporadic, episodic (i.e. "rollout") or = unusual load? - have you set the parameter down or off (assuming, since this is = test/qa, you have that option) - can you 'instrument' your apps to track cursor usage?=20 - is statspack running in there, and can you tracked current/cumulative = open cursors over time? I'd say "try truncating the URL_PAGES table" but I don't know if you = have the Oracle High Performance Option (OHPO) installed. :-) -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx = [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Drake Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 5:10 PM To: robyn.sands@xxxxxxxxx Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: session_cached_cursors and ora-07745 From the readme from 9.2.0.5 patchset for win32: =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Oracle9i Database Server Patch Set Notes Release 2 Patch Set 4 Version 9.2.0.5.0 for 32-Bit Windows March 2004=20 PL/SQL Cursor Caching Prior to release of the 9.2.0.5.0 patch set, the maximum number of = cursors that could be cached for fast lookup by PL/SQL was bounded by = the value of the init.ora parameter open_cursors. If you currently have = open_cursors set to a high value (for example, greater than 1000), it is = likely that this is causing large numbers of PL/SQL cursors to be cached = in the shared pool. This could lead to issues with memory management, = frequent reloading of library cache objects and ORA-04031 errors. Patch set 9.2.0.5.0 alleviates the issue by changing the init.ora = parameter which determines the upper bound for PL/SQL cursor caching = from open_cursors to session_cached_cursors. Most users will not need to modify the value of either of these = parameters. If you already have session_cached_cursors set to a value = greater than the open_cursors parameter, then this change will have no = performance impact upon your system. However, if you have session_cached_cursors set to zero, or set at a = value significantly lower than the open_cursors parameter, and you are = concerned that PL/SQL cursors need to be cached for optimal performance, = then you should ensure that the session_cached_cursors parameter is = increased appropriately. This issue is bug number 3150705.=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D From that, I thought that it was proper to set |open_cursors|=3D|session_cached_cursors| where |parameter| =3D value (aka magnitude or scalar). The metalink note makes it clear to me that this is overkill. From this, = it looks like I'd revert session_cached_cursors back to 100 and leave = open_cursors at 255 like I did back in 9.2.0.4. I do recall having a series of ora-4031 issues for a db after it went = from 8.1.7 to 10.1.0.3. This could help to explain that. (the system = state dump run while throwing the 4031s never completed as after 40 min = we just bounced the db inst). Paul On Tue, 15 Mar 2005 16:50:58 -0500, Robyn <robyn.sands@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hello all, >=20 > One of my test/dev instances went belly up yesterday morning with=20 > ORA-07445 errors in the alert log. I've the the database back but I=20 > ran across a doc on metalink (Note:274496.1) that indicates using=20 > parameter session_cached_cursors should not be used with version=20 > 9.2.0.5 and up. >=20 > This database is 9.2.0.6 / HP-UX 11.23. I've been selectively using=20 > session_cached_cursor with other 9.2.0 databases but this is the first = > db that I've seen these errors on. Has anyone else seen this happen=20 > and/or heard that this param should not be used? >=20 > tia ... Robyn > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l >=20 --=20 #/etc/init.d/init.cssd stop # f=3Dma, divide by 1, convert to moles. -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l