Re: separate owner/ORACLE_HOME for crs, ASM, and database in RAC environment

  • From: "Li Li" <litanli@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: oracle-l <Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2007 17:22:59 -0600

Hi Pete,

Start dbca as oracle showed ASM works fine, but start dbca as oraclex (in a
different oracle home) cannot see the ASM instance.

like I said, the reason to have separate owner is to separate the
responsibilities, and I think this is oracle's direction too, as in 11g,
there's a new privilege "sysasm".

On Dec 12, 2007 4:58 PM, Pete Sharman <peter.sharman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Li Li
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> If you want to check this is a permissions thing, probably the easiest way
> is to start DBCA as oracle, not oraclex.
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> One thing you didn't mention directly is WHICH dbca you were using.  Is it
> the one in ASM home or the database home?
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> Personally, I'm yet to be convinced that there really is a valid reason
> for having two separate user ID's for this sort of configuration.  It's an
> argument I've seen used many times and I really think it only causes grief
> somewhere along the line.  Separate ORACLE_HOMES I can see as sensible, but
> still not convinced about separate user ID's owning them.
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> Pete
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> "Controlling developers is like herding cats."
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> Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
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> "Oh no, it's not, it's much harder than that!"
>
> Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA
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> *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
> oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Li Li
> *Sent:* Thursday, 13 December 2007 8:52 AM
> *To:* oracle-l
> *Subject:* separate owner/ORACLE_HOME for crs, ASM, and database in RAC
> environment
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> Hi, List,
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> I am testing to setup a 2-node RAC environment with separate
> owner/ORACLE_HOME for crs, ASM, and database, it's 10gR2 on Redhat AS 4.
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> 2 users are created: oracle and oraclex, oracle owns clusterware home and
> ASM home, oraclex owns database home.
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> first, I login as oracle and installed clusterware and database software
> (in 2 different oracle home of course), configured and started ASM instance,
> everything worked fine.
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> second, I login as oraclex and installed database software, then I tried
> to create a database using dbca, but I ran into error when I chose ASM as my
> database storage, the error is:
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> "DBCA could not startup the ASM instance configured on this node. To
> proceed with database creation using ASM you need the ASM instance to be up
> and running. Do you want to recreate the ASM instance on this node?"
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> But the ASM instance IS already running. I am guessing this must be
> because of some permission issue but I am not sure what I am missing. I have
> oracle and oraclex both have "oinstall" as primary group and "dba" as second
> group.
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> I googled but cannot find any useful information. Can anybody give me some
> suggestion? Any comment would be greatly appreciated!
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> Thanks,
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> -Li
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