Cary and Branden, I take your point and appreciate the insights. Thanks. --- On Fri, 4/9/10, Cary Millsap <cary.millsap@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: From: Cary Millsap <cary.millsap@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: parsing puzzle To: "Joe A-C" <jwc7744@xxxxxxxxx> Cc: Brandon.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxx, "oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Friday, April 9, 2010, 5:45 PM ...And my point is that even if your system consistently reports the same "wait events" being your dominant response time consumers, it doesn't mean that these wait events are the problem for the specific business task you're hoping to make faster. See http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/network/excerpt/optimizing_oracle_chap12/ for a real-life example. In your case, I jumped all over the parsing and latching issues (actually, I jumped on the parsing issue; I only guessed the latching issue) because it's a subject I'm interested in. But prioritizing what you tune first based on what you're interested in, or what you guess the problem probably is, ...that's no way to do it. You don't need to guess, because you can know. If you base your diagnosis on AWR/Statspack, then there's still an element of guessing involved. ...As I think you'll understand if you read the example I provided. Cary Millsap Method R Corporation http://method-r.com On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 4:32 PM, Allen, Brandon <Brandon.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Just to clarify, I’m not saying that your AWR reports are misleading you or that AWR/Statspack reports are “bad” in general – I use them regularly myself and often find them to be very useful. They might even be pointing you in the right direction here. I was simply trying to caution you that they can be misleading. I only skimmed your original post this morning and can’t remember the specifics and am too busy to review it, but from the quick glance I gave it, it just looked to me like you might have been making some invalid assumptions that could be leading you off track so I was merely recommending how I would approach the issue in general, not even addressing your main questions, which I believe were about parsing and latching issues. Regards, Brandon Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message or attachments hereto. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of this company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it.