RE: os authenticated accounts
- From: "QuijadaReina, Julio C" <QuijadJC@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "pythianbrinsmead@xxxxxxxxx" <pythianbrinsmead@xxxxxxxxx>, "mark.powell@xxxxxxx" <mark.powell@xxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2008 10:01:55 -0500
Mark,
You bring out excellent points. I agree about the security concern here. I
believe Metalink 401251.1 shows one of those secure alternatives. One would
actually need the Oracle Wallet Manager and orapki and avoid having to use a
Certifcate Authority.
Julio
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Subject: Re: os authenticated accounts
Is checking the source IP in a trigger reliable?
I do not recall the source, but I had the impression that that information is
provided (directly) by the client, not by the TNS listener, and can
(relatively) easily be spoofed. Also, the method would break down -- or be
tricked -- when using "proxied" connections, e.g., port-forwarding through SSH,
or possibly Oracle Connection Manager. (Never used the latter myself.) It
would also be problematic if there are NAT-enabled firewalls anywhere along
your network route.
Every case needs to be judged on its own merits, but basically it is my
practice to award REMOTE_OS_AUTHENTICATION=TRUE an automatic "Fail" on any
security review, even (or especially) where there are no EXTERNALLY IDENTIFIED
accounts present in the database. While I have never actually attempted to
"hack" or "spoof" it, my understanding is that it is all too easy.
For those who can afford it, though, the Advanced Security Option and/or
Database Vault offer secure alternatives, I believe. I have stumbled across
these options myself while answering similar questions, but it has been so many
years since I've been at a site with pockets deep enough (or business needs
serious enough) to actually consider these expensive options, I have never
really investigated them in any real depth.
*sigh* Working for regulated utilities did have its advantages... :-)
Of course, the O.P. only asked "is this possible?", and the answer is "yes, it
certainly is". What a shame he did not ask instead "is this wise?".
:-)
On Tue, Mar 4, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Powell, Mark D
<mark.powell@xxxxxxx<mailto:mark.powell@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
I have always preferred to set the os_authent_prefix='' rather than
OPS$.
I am not sure if trying to limit the node access is practical since I do
not think the node checking can be associated to usernames in the sqlnet
layer. You might need to resort to checking the IP for any OS
authenticated accounts in an after logon database event trigger.
-- Mark D Powell --
Phone (313) 592-5148
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Subject: RE: os authenticated accounts
Yes, it is possible.
The following parameters on your database init.ora relating to this are
(if my memory serves me correctly):
remote_os_authent=true
os_authent_prefix=ops$
Create the account you will use on your Linux box. Then create the
externally identified account on your database. From your Linux client
you should be able to connect by issuing 'sqlplus /' after setting the
client environment.
A word of caution: anyone knowing your database tnsnames and the name of
the account could potentially connect to your database. That sounds
pretty bad! You might want to look into tcp.validnode_checking and
tcp.invited_nodes pars on your server's sqlnet.ora and/or have the OS
firewall setting that opens the listener port only to your linux client.
Julio
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Subject: Re: os authenticated accounts
Joe Smith schrieb:
> Is it possible to use OS authenticated accounts ( i.e. identified
> externally ) between two servers?
>
> I have a linux box with with an oracle client install and an aix
> server with EE installed.
>
> The external account was originally on the aix server. We want to
> move the 3rd party app and the account to a linux box.
>
> thanks.
>
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You may look on the external users identified by ssl certificates (if
you are on 10g onwards).
Not sure about additional licensing costs (i.e. whether it is part of
ASO or not).
Best regards
Maxim
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