I get calls from regular sales droids whenever I hit the downloads section of OTN. I usually get a cryptic phone message a few days after the download which says "David this is xxx from Oracle, I have a question that only _you_ can answer, please call me back at 800...". It sounded like a setup from the start so I never called them back. When the person finally reached me at my desk it was not hard to connect his questions with my recent downloads. I have enough contact with the local Oracle folks, I don't need more people calling and duplicating the effort. I did get a call from one of the support managers after a particularly scathing review of how a SR was (not) handled. That was pointless too. -Dave -- Dave Mann www.brainio.us www.ba6.us - Database Stuff - http://www.ba6.us/rss.xml -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l