Well as it happened I had invited an ms guy to our oracle on windows sig to talk about ms virtualization. I was disappointed with the tech content, but what was interesting to me was that ms *get* virtualization in a way that oracle don't. So for example each new product must work correctly in a virtual environment. The management tools are being designed with virtual environments as a core manageability target and so on. Microsoft.com runs on virtual servers etc etc. It's a bit like the management pack licensing - oracle seems to imagine the world in fortune 500 terms only. Ms seems to see the bigger picture. Anyway rant over. On 5/13/09, Taylor, Chris David <Chris.Taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Will Oracle follow? Maybe...but not quickly. Frustrating as heck > watching mgmt sweat over Oracle licensing and contemplate moving to a > different database because of the licensing complexity/costs. > > > Chris Taylor > Sr. Oracle DBA > Ingram Barge Company > Nashville, TN 37205 > Office: 615-517-3355 > Cell: 615-354-4799 > Email: chris.taylor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > > > CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This e-mail and any attachments are confidential > and may also be privileged. If you are not the named recipient, please > notify the sender immediately and delete the contents of this message > without disclosing the contents to anyone, using them for any purpose, > or storing or copying the information on any medium. > > > > ________________________________ > > From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Paul Drake > Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 11:45 AM > To: oracle-l > Subject: MS: of license portability, we get that now > > > http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&; > articleId=9132967 > > > > "Yuen said Microsoft has liberalized licenses for its own server > applications. Due to changes made late last year, Microsoft software > such as Exchange, SQL Server, SharePoint, Windows Server and others can > now be migrated from server to server without users violating their > licenses, Yuen said. > > The importance "of license portability, we get that now," Yuen said. > That portability is true, even if VMs are being moved from server to > server using VMware's V-Motion live migration tool. > > Microsoft will also now fully support applications running inside VMs > from partners such as Novell Inc., Red Hat Inc. and Citrix Systems Inc. > "If you have a Red Hat issue, we will attempt to solve it and then > escalate it with Red Hat if we can't," he said." > > > > > > > > -- Sent from Google Mail for mobile | mobile.google.com Niall Litchfield Oracle DBA http://www.orawin.info -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l