Re: oem 12c on hp-ux pa-risc 11.11
- From: max scalf <oracle.blog3@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: Maaz Anjum <maazanjum@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 5 May 2014 07:55:08 -0500
@Pete
thanks for that info. Are there any plans in the future release of OEM for
the funcanality ? As i am sure there are a lot of sites out there running
on unsupported version...
@Tim/Maaz
Thanks for that info on Metric Extentions. I am going to make use of that
for now. I guess it would just be nice to have everything under one
umbrella. As we make use of the "Performance tab" a lot and other things.
On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 5:31 AM, Maaz Anjum <maazanjum@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Max,
>
> I have had to use two OEM's before for the same reason as yours at a
> customer site.
>
> However, there were still a few unsupported (by em12c) database versions
> on certified host platforms where I used Metric
> Extensions<http://maazanjum.com/2013/12/09/a-useful-metric-extension-in-em12c-for-unsupported-oracle-database-versions/>from
> a host perspective to monitor their status and tablespace usage. You
> "could" modify the script in my post that checks the instance status via a
> tnsnames alias instead of a local connection. Looking back at the
> customer's configuration, I ended up installing the 12c agent on the 11.11
> platform and deployed the aforementioned Metric Extension. Though, I don't
> think this is supported.
>
> Likewise, you could set up a "ping" and "df" Metric Extension to the 11.11
> host from, let's say, the EM host target.
>
> I think Tim is correct, and that I have heard the same from someone else
> as well. Sadly, I do not have any documentation for it :(
>
> Cheers,
> Maaz
>
>
> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 3:53 AM, Tim Hall <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> I just read that back and what I was saying was unclear.
>>
>> So we had a 12c agent on box A monitoring an instance on box B...
>>
>> As I said, long time ago and I didn't write down what I did, so it
>> officially does not exist. :)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Tim...
>>
>>
>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:42 AM, Tim Hall <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it possible for an agent to monitor
>>> some aspects of a remote system? I'm sure we did this under 12c once for an
>>> old system that had not been upgraded yet. It was a while ago and they
>>> system has been upgraded now, so I don't have anything to refer back to, so
>>> my memory could be failing me... :)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Tim...
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, May 5, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Peter Sharman
>>> <pete.sharman@xxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> No it will not work. Pre-12c agents cannot communicate with a 12c
>>>> OMS.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pete
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>>>> *From:* max scalf [mailto:oracle.blog3@xxxxxxxxx]
>>>> *Sent:* Sunday, May 4, 2014 6:17 AM
>>>> *To:* oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>> *Subject:* oem 12c on hp-ux pa-risc 11.11
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hello List,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have a question and maybe some of you guys are already doing this(or
>>>> not). We have some old HP-UX PA Risc(11.11) and i want them monitored with
>>>> our new OEM 12c(12.1.0.3). Looking at the certification matrix looks like
>>>> 11.11 is not supported with the 12c agent.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have one thing i have done in the past, where i wanted to monitor our
>>>> old pa-risc(11.11) box from Grid control version 11.1.0.7. I was unable to
>>>> deploy 11g agent as well(due to support issue, pa-risc 11g agent only
>>>> supported pa-risc 11.23 and 11.31). So as a worked around I deployed
>>>> 10.2.0.5 agent on that old pa-risc 11.11 box and got it connected to 11g
>>>> grid control.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Most of these old box run DB version 10.2.0.4 or 10.2.0.5. I am not
>>>> sure if i can still do this with OEM 12c? where i can either re-deploy(or
>>>> point them to 12c OEM) 10.2.0.5 agent on these old 11.11 box. Obviously i
>>>> am sure you guys are probably asking why are you asking here, why not just
>>>> try it and find out yourself as you have already done this before.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> That's were i am stuck. Our team/Management do not want me to do that
>>>> and they are okay with using 2 different OEM(11g grid of all these old box
>>>> and 12c for newer version). I think if we can make this work, then we do
>>>> not have to deal with 2 different OEM versions and everything will be under
>>>> one umbrella.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to post this out here and see what people have to say, so
>>>> at the least i can point our team/management to right direction.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone monitoring there old hp-ux pa-risc 11.11 box with OEM 12c, if
>>>> so what are you doing?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any pointers would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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