Re: new Patch Set Updates released

  • From: lyallbarbour@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:41:33 -0500

Oh gotcha.  Grid will find the patch that you ask it to find.  There's a search 
tool.  I ask i can answer both questions by saying that Grid will patch 
whatever you want it to patch with whatever you tell it to patch in whatever 
order you tell it to patch.  Of course, it won't let you patch a HP-UX database 
with a Windows FMW patch.  But, you have lots of control over what it does.  
And, no, no PSU recommendations yet, but whenever it tells me CPU's are out, i 
look for a new PSU on Metalink for that version of whatever i'm patching, lol.
Lyall






-----Original Message-----
From: Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx>
To: lyallbarbour@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2010 3:34 pm
Subject: Re: new Patch Set Updates released


Well for example you shouldn't patch say your forms tiers before the
etadata repository and so on. Idm means identity management. I guess
he real question was does grid get the patches right my guess would
e yes and does it get inter home dependencies right- my guess would
e know. I bet it can't recommend PSUs yet!
On 1/13/10, lyallbarbour@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <lyallbarbour@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 I'm not really sure what you mean by "complex ordering".  When there's a new
 CPU out (like today or yesterday or whenever this January one came out), the
 home page for grid pops up with a bunch of new Critical Patch Advisories.  I
 had fifteen of them waiting for me this morning.  But, there's only one
 patch for each version... It's not really complex.  The Deployment
 Procedures have a set of rules it goes through to apply a patch to a
 Database, a different set to apply a patch to an Application Server, etc.  I
 don't know what IDM stands for.

 I hope i answered your question.
 Lyall


 -----Original Message-----
 From: Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx>
 To: lyallbarbour@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2010 2:52 pm
 Subject: Re: new Patch Set Updates released


 Out of interest how well does Grid deal with the complex ordering of CPU
 deployment requirements for FMW? You know you must have your repository at
 at least 10.2.0.4 CPU x and then do the FMW patch and if IDM is involved
 then theres a separate patch for that.

 Niall


 On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 6:34 PM, <lyallbarbour@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 Piece of cake, especially through Grid Control's Deployment Procedures.  We
 haven't had any problems with July09, Oct09 and i just installed my first
 CPU for Jan10 this morning.  No problems after installing on our
 applications either.
 Oracle Database 10.2.0.4 PSU#2
 Oracle Fusion Middleware 10.1.3.4 CPUOct09
 Oracle Database 11.1.0.7 PSU#1
 Oracle OMS Grid 10.2.0.5 PSU#1
 is what i've installed them on.  From Windows and Linux to HP-UX.

 Lyall







 -----Original Message-----
 From: Allen, Brandon <Brandon.Allen@xxxxxxxxxxx>
 To: development@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <development@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
 oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
 Sent: Wed, Jan 13, 2010 1:13 pm
 Subject: RE: new Patch Set Updates released


 I'm just curious what the list's opinion is on these from those who have
 been
 nstalling them - are they truly "low risk" as described by Oracle in MOS Doc
 54428.1, or have you found the reality to be significantly different from
 the
 ype?  Of course I would always install in a test environment first, no
 matter
 ow low-risk it is deemed to be, but I'm just curious if people are generally
 inding these to be more trouble than their worth, or if they have gone
 moothly?
 I've never applied a PSU or CPU before, but am considering changing my
 policy on
 hat and applying these PSUs either quarterly, or maybe only semi-anually or
 nually depending on the level of effort required and how many bugs I find
 they
 ntroduce once I actually test it.
 I was already in the process of preparing to install 10.2.0.4.2, but I
 suppose I
 ight as well jump to 10.2.0.4.3 now that it's out.  I'm a little scared to
 be
 hat far out on the bleeding edge, but we'll test thoroughly and wait a month
 or
 o before putting it in production so hopefully we'll be okay.  I'll report
 back
 o the list if I come across any major issues.
 Thanks in advance for any feedback!
 randon

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