RE: license

  • From: "Mark W. Farnham" <mwf@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <Andrew.Kerber@xxxxxxx>, <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <jkstill@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2007 13:21:32 -0400

As regards Oracle's product use of database features you have not licensed
and do not otherwise use: Several years ago the OAUG negotiated a policy on
behalf of Applications users such that if Oracle makes development use of
tools or capabilities in the development of a product that was either
formerly not a separate license fee or was not formerly needed to make the
off the shelf software work correctly, then there was no charge for that
feature or module for the required product use.

As examples, that meant that you did not have to purchase the workflow
builder in order to configure Oracle's E-business suite workflows to match
your business work processes.

Also as an example, if you created your own workflow processes for use apart
from the E-business suite, but even within the same database as that which
housed the E-business suite, then you would normally be obligated to
purchase the workflow builder (though probably at a number of seats
proportional to your workflow developers rather than to your AP and GL
clerks or (Horrors!) your iexpense users.

Now please do not take this as legal advice and read your own agreements.
But please do take this information as something useful to ask about if you
think your account rep may be either uninformed or aggressively ignoring
this policy. Last time I had a conversation with the person at Oracle in
charge of keeping this all straight, the policy was as I've just described.

Most likely this policy will survive a long time since it is inherently fair
and it allows Oracle to use its own full tool set to build off the shelf
modules that must compete with products at a modest price point compared to
the license cost of the full Oracle tool set.

Regards,

mwf

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Kerber, Andrew W.
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 8:28 AM
To: chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; jkstill@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: joe_dba@xxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: license

Should be interesting to see how they handle oem installations then,
which according to their doc don't require a separate license but do
require partitioning.

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Chris Dunscombe
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 4:04 AM
To: jkstill@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: joe_dba@xxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: license

Hi,

I was as at a site some years ago where we had a similar situation and
had
Oracle conduct a licensing audit and Oracle said you can not install
Oracle
software that you don't have license for even if you don't use it.

HTH.

Cheers,

Chris



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