well there is v$license, but I've not been able to find where oracle stores it between bounces, i'm sure its there somewhere because when oracle comes in to audit you then can tell the max connections even between bounces, so i'm sure its buried somewhere in some $ table. Thanks, Joe --------------------------------------- You can have it: Fast, Right or Cheap, pick 2 of the 3. Fast + Right is Expensive Fast + Cheap will be incorrect. Right + Cheap will take a while. dba1 mcc <mccdba1@xxxxxxxxx> Sent by: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 05/14/2008 09:49 AM Please respond to mccdba1@xxxxxxxxx From dba1 mcc <mccdba1@xxxxxxxxx> To oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx cc Subject how to check "license high water mark" without shutdown database? Does any one know how to check "license high water mark" without shutdown database? Thanks.