RE: dbca 11g and em 12c agent
- From: Peter Sharman <pete.sharman@xxxxxxxxxx>
- To: jeremy.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:52:44 -0800 (PST)
I'm not seeing anywhere in that note that says DBCA will configure the agent,
so maybe I'm misunderstanding what you're after here or we're just using two
different terms to say the same thing. All the DBCA screen for configuring EM
does is register with Cloud Control to let it know that the database I'm
creating with DBCA will be monitored using Cloud Control (or alternatively DB
Control, but I assume that's not what you're trying to do here - if it is, let
me know that this assumption is incorrect). It knows that it can register for
centralized management by picking up from the inventory that 12c agents are
already installed on the machine. Hence the reason you see two different
results on different Exadata systems - one has an agent already (albeit an
ancient one) and the other does not. The reason nothing happens on Prod is
because a pre-12c agent can't communicate with a 12c OMS. If you pushed 12c
agents onto the two machines from within EM12c itself prior to running DBCA,
you should see consistent screens.
Pete
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jeremy Schneider [mailto:jeremy.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 3:51 AM
To: Peter Sharman
Cc: Niall Litchfield; oracle-l
Subject: Re: dbca 11g and em 12c agent
DBCA does include functionality to configure a database with a central
Enterprise Manager -- are you saying that it can only use the agent binaries
bundled in its own Oracle Home but can't use agents that are installed
independently into other locations?
Another oddity... I've had different results on two different exadata systems
with identical versions of DBCA.
- System 1 (Q.A.): DBCA skipped the EM screens completely
- System 2 (PROD): DBCA showed EM screens but they didn't have any
effect
I haven't thoroughly investigated but the initial difference I saw between the
systems was that on System 2 (PROD), there's an old 10g EM agent still on the
filesystem and in the inventory.
The note in question is 1373255.1 (11.2.0.1/11.2.0.2 to 11.2.0.3 Grid
Infrastructure and Database Upgrade on Exadata Database Machine)
-Jeremy
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On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:38:21 -0800 (PST) Peter Sharman
<pete.sharman@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Jeremy
>
> Can you tell me what note it is? To my knowledge, EM agents can't be
> configured with DBCA so if there's a note that says that we need to
> address it.
>
> Pete
>
> Pete Sharman
> Principal Product Manager
> Enterprise Manager Product Suite
> 33 Benson Crescent CALWELL ACT 2905 AUSTRALIA
> Phone: +61262924095 | | Fax: +61262925183 | | Mobile: +61414443449
>
> "Controlling developers is like herding cats."
> Kevin Loney, Oracle DBA Handbook
>
> "Oh no, it's not, it's much harder than that!"
> Bruce Pihlamae, long term Oracle DBA
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeremy Schneider [mailto:jeremy.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2013 1:00 AM
> To: Niall Litchfield
> Cc: oracle-l
> Subject: Re: dbca 11g and em 12c agent
>
> EM is working fine; I had some issues with discovery but was able to
> manually do what I needed.
>
> I wanted to specifically know if DBCA (11g) works because there's an
> Oracle Support note that says it should and I wondered if I'm missing
> something.
>
> -Jeremy
>
>
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> Pythian Consulting Group
> Chicago
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> +1 312-725-9249
> http://www.pythian.com
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>
>
> On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 09:45:53 +0000
> Niall Litchfield <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > I don't believe it works. Does scheduling discovery from within em
> > not work for you?
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 11:10 PM, Jeremy Schneider <
> > jeremy.schneider@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > > has anyone ever used DBCA 11g to configure an EM 12c agent for
> > > their database? either during the "create database" stage or by
> > > going back to the "configure database options" functionality of
> > > DBCA?
> > >
> > > I haven't had any luck getting "configure database options" to
> > > work so far with EM 12c.
> > >
> > > -Jeremy
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