From chatting with our field engineers, what we worked out with Oracle backline engineering is that the order doesn't really matter - because you're not "officially" patched until you have done *both* the data dictionary update and the application of the CPUs. So you could really do them in either order, it just depends on what gets done first. I would say, if you wanted to minimize downtime, patch just the binaries on the standby, do a switchover to the standby, run catcpu and whatnot on the standby, since that's an online operation, bring down the now-standby/formerly-primary instance and patch the binaries, and then switch back. Matt -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Stell Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2010 9:36 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: cpu patch with physical standby 813445.1 says to apply cpu to primary first. 278641.1 says to apply cpu to standby first. Maybe it doesn't matter. Thoughts? -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l