I asked Oracle educators once if Oracle offered such a course, they chuckled, said it might actually end up being more popular than technology courses, but no. Seems to me no one knows what to do with bureaucracies: If they did, they wouldn't exist anymore. Any tips or tricks in this regard (other than just saying "keep your organization small")? I was told when I learned Oracle initially that shutdown abort | startup restrict is always faster than shutdown immediate. My original Oracle instructor for 7.3 added that "shutdown normal" was never used, it's useless because some users never log off. Sometimes therefore you do a quick check, and if people just won't log off and something needs to be done now, cut them off. The Unix kill -kill command is useful in that regard as well, when Kill Session takes too long. Some examples I've seen over the past 20 years: One "effective" manager once told me it's always easier to obtain forgiveness than to get permission ahead of time. Esp. if it was to help move things along. But over time things became more difficult for that person because people didn't forget. Another (1980s, dumb terminal environment) used to keep hardware parts hidden in drawers because he couldn't get approval for replacements when they were needed. At that location (in another city from where I live now) the management of IT groups didn't know much about IT or care because they were mostly interested only in their own careers. They spent money on what they wanted to spend it on, but didn't even bother asking the people who were doing the actual work what they needed. One unix system admin (now retired) used to work every night for 3-5 extra hours, often logged in via modem at night to check on backups or to launch jobs at 2-5AM, never submitted his overtime because it would never be approved. I think at first years ago his overtime was refused but the work still needed to be done and he cared, so he just kept working. The director above him knew it was happening for 10+ years but turned a blind eye because he didn't have enough authority to hire more staff and if he put in all the time it would "look bad". Somehow when someone is capable and committed to his work it "looks bad". This same sysad used to submit support calls to Veritas reporting NetBackup bugs and provide them with code they could use to fix the bug or work around it. He cared about his work but never received any kind of recognition for it. We noticed one of his suggestions was even copy pasted into a Veritas tech note word for word, with no reference or thank you to our colleague. Another systems admin / project lead I knew, now retired, some years ago pulled the plug on a Windows server "by mistake" because he couldn't get the bureaucracy to allow him to migrate off old hardware to new and the migration project had a deadline to meet. Once the server was "down" he migrated it and was done pretty quickly. Lucky for him he didn't run into any major snags during his hardware migration. He told me he was near retirement, paid his dues and by that point he didn't care whether he was ruffling some people's feathers, he was going to finish the project on time regardless. I wonder how often that kind of thing happens. It's pretty disheartening. Shouldn't organizations work better? I wonder now when I buy things in stores how much of my hard-earned dollars are wasted on bureaucratic inefficiency. In any case if you care about your systems, how do you keep them running well in bureaucratic / corporate environments? Any tricks or tips? I noticed that many people do their best at first, then reach the point where they realize they will burn out; to protect their health they stop caring and just put in their hours. There has to be a better way. -- Patrice My profiles: [image: Facebook] <http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/profile.php?id=100000206805521>[image: LinkedIn] <http://ca.linkedin.com/pub/patrice-boivin/a/933/5a9>[image: Twitter] <http://www.twitter.com/PatriceBoivin> <http://www.twitter.com/PatriceBoivin> Signature powered by WiseStamp <http://www.wisestamp.com/email-install>