what is a 'softer' soft parse? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bobak, Mark" <Mark.Bobak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:41 PM Subject: RE: concerning soft parses > Ryan, > > In the ideal, perfect world, the first session would connect, the query would be parsed (that would be a hard parse), then the variables would be > bound, and the statement executed. That session would never have to parse again. It simply needs to re-bind and re-execute as many times as necessary. > The second session would come along and parse (this would be a soft parse), then bind variables and execute. Same here, it never needs to parse again. > So, you have one hard parse per unique sql statement and one soft parse per session per unique sql statement. That's the ideal. Approximately zero > applications work this way! ;-) > > To answer your question, utilizing the session cursor cache does not eliminate soft parsing. It does, however, make for a 'softer' soft parse, which > provides for greater scalability. This can be demonstrated w/ some simple testing and observing the amount of library cache latching. If you look > at V$STATNAME, you'll see stats such as: > > STATISTIC# NAME > ---------- --------------------------------------------------------------- - > 179 parse count (total) > 180 parse count (hard) > 191 session cursor cache hits > 193 cursor authentications > > I did some experimentation here, and I thought it was this list that the results were posted to.....yeah, I just checked my archive, look around 1/8/04 > for a thread entitled "Re: Suggestions needed: Latch free - library cache". > > Hope that helps, > > -Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > From: ryan.gaffuri@xxxxxxx [mailto:ryan.gaffuri@xxxxxxx] > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 5:15 PM > To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: concerning soft parses > > > the only way to eliminate a soft parse on a query with bind variables is to set session_cached_cursors? Now is it possible for two different sessions to share the same cursor or will this always result in atleast a soft parse? > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > -- > Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. > -- > Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ > FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html > ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------