My understanding is that you don't have to license the standby server, UNLESS you bring it online more than X times per year, with X being a negotiated number. I believe it defaults to 5, and online means open to everyone for all purposes. -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Closson Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:45 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: a really non-technical question, help? sorry, folks, but I though as many production DBAs as are on this list, I might be able to get an answer to this question. What I need to know is how Oracle licensing works on a hot-standby (e.g., a VCS failover node). In this case I'm thinking that the failover node will never be running oracle *unless* the primary is dead. Seems like a single system worht of CPUs to license in my mind...any feedback ? >-----Original Message----- >From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Rogers >Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:27 AM >To: jrsmiley@xxxxxxxxx; richard.ignizio@xxxxxxxxxx; >rgramolini@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: RE: RMAN backups > >Ruth, > You are correct. a level 0 backup for me takes 14 min at 10.4 >Gig disk used and the level1 backups takes 14 min at 3.7 Gig. >Ron > >>>> "Ruth Gramolini" <rgramolini@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 06/21/05 1:05 PM >>> >John, > >Unless something has changed with 10g, and incremental backup >doesn't actually save much time. Rman still has to read the >block headers to see if the block needs to be backed up. It >mostly saves space on disc if backing up to disk. > >Correct me if I am wrong! >Ruth >-----Original Message----- >From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On >Behalf Of John Smiley >Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 11:19 AM >To: richard.ignizio@xxxxxxxxxx >Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: Re: RMAN backups > > >Backup times with RMAN are going to vary greatly depending >upon the hardware and how many blocks need to be backed up. >Even a very large database can be backed up incrementally if >very few blocks have changed since the last backup with RMAN. > >What might be a better yardstick is backup rate. The fastest >RMAN backup rate I've seen was published by Amazon a few years >back. They attained 2TB / hour. > >John Smiley >Technical Management Consultant >TUSC, Inc. > >-- >//www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l