RE: a really non-technical question, help?

  • To: <kevinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 21 Jun 2005 14:45:31 -0400

My understanding is that you don't have to license the standby server,
UNLESS you bring it online more than X times per year, with X being a
negotiated number.  I believe it defaults to 5, and online means open to
everyone for all purposes. 

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Kevin Closson
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 1:45 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: a really non-technical question, help?

 

sorry, folks, but I though as many production DBAs
as are on this list, I might be able to get an answer
to this question. What I need to know is how Oracle
licensing works on a hot-standby (e.g., a VCS failover node).

In this case I'm thinking that the failover node will
never be running oracle *unless* the primary is dead.
Seems like a single system worht of CPUs to license 
in my mind...any feedback ?


>-----Original Message-----
>From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ron Rogers
>Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 10:27 AM
>To: jrsmiley@xxxxxxxxx; richard.ignizio@xxxxxxxxxx; 
>rgramolini@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: RMAN backups
>
>Ruth,
> You are correct. a level 0 backup for me takes 14 min at 10.4 
>Gig disk used  and the level1 backups takes 14 min at 3.7 Gig.
>Ron
>
>>>> "Ruth Gramolini" <rgramolini@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> 06/21/05 1:05 PM >>>
>John,
>
>Unless something has changed with 10g, and incremental backup 
>doesn't actually save much time.  Rman still has to read the 
>block headers to see if the block needs to be backed up.  It 
>mostly saves space on disc if backing up to disk.
>
>Correct me if I am wrong!
>Ruth
>-----Original Message-----
>From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On
>Behalf Of John Smiley
>Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2005 11:19 AM
>To: richard.ignizio@xxxxxxxxxx
>Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: RMAN backups
>
>
>Backup times with RMAN are going to vary greatly depending 
>upon the hardware and how many blocks need to be backed up.  
>Even a very large database can be backed up incrementally if 
>very few blocks have changed since the last backup with RMAN.
>
>What might be a better yardstick is backup rate.  The fastest 
>RMAN backup rate I've seen was published by Amazon a few years 
>back.  They attained 2TB / hour.
>
>John Smiley
>Technical Management Consultant
>TUSC, Inc.
>
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