It is becoming easier in 10g if you can swallow the word AUTO or AUTOMATIC :) I used to use MANUAL gearbox all the time. I need the conceptual switch here. Of course old features are preserved while adding new funcitonality and new parameters and new hints. A few are made obsolete, but at the end it is more robust and more complex. To not mention all these forums adding true and false statements about Oracle. So, I am seeing the bright future being a DBA :) --- "Marquez, Chris" <CMarquez@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > Zoran, > Hey I thought Oracle was getting simpler with each > version...reducing > the need for a DBA altogether. > ;o) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l