I believe it is more accurate to state that depending on the nature of the problem, some nodes may continue running when another node fails. I'm not aware of a good study comparing failure modes and the likelihood of one node failure affecting the continued operation of other nodes. Clearly the intent of proper domain construction includes minimizing the chances that the crash of one node will affect other nodes. good luck! mwf -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Mark Moynahan Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 6:21 PM To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: RE: Virtual RAC on Solaris E15k True, if one node goes down the other nodes will not be affected. What has been proposed is that we create a domain(node) for each system board. Then build a RAC system amongst the multiple domains. That way there if one board fails, thus making a domain fail, the RAC system would continue working. Currently, we have a dedicated 9i db running on one domain. The domain has multiple boards. If one of the boards fail the DB goes down. Management wants to get away from having this situation occur. Cheers! Mark -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Khedr, Waleed Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:18 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Virtual RAC on Solaris E15k Redundancy in e15K is built in such way that after domain'ing the machine, each node is completely self sufficient. Problem in one node is isolated from the other node. Read about "Dynamic System Domains" Regards, Waleed -----Original Message----- From: Mark Moynahan [mailto:Mark.Moynahan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 3:38 PM To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: Virtual RAC on Solaris E15k Management has come to our team and asked about putting a 9i RAC on a single e15K. We completed their request by building a two node cluster on a single e15k. The problem is that management thinks this will buy them redundancy. When management was asked 'How would RAC on e15k provide redundancy if the e15k goes down?' their rebuttal was 'The e15k rarely ever goes down and there needs to be db redundancy in relation to the e15k hardware.' This doesn't make sense to me. Why bother with virtual RAC when there is still a single point of failure? The added complexity of RAC doesn't provide any real benefits. Can anyone argue in favor of putting virtual RAC on an e15k? Wouldn't a logical standby be a better option? Thanks, Mark ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------