Re: (Update): Controlfiles just got overwritten

  • From: George Leonard - Business Connexion <George.Leonard@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "maureen.english@xxxxxxxxxx" <maureen.english@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 15 Jul 2014 04:26:04 +0000

old saying

Your backup processes is only as good as your last recovery test.

And as the guys sid, the most important thing, sit down, calm down, relax, (I'e 
personally added, don't matter how big or small, open a SR with Oracle), we do 
this type of recovery hopefully only once, they have guys that help customers 
daily with it, experience and work arounds are their business.

Yours Sincerely

________________________________________
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Oracle Engineered System Specialist

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On 15 Jul 2014, at 5:51 AM, Maureen English 
<maureen.english@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:maureen.english@xxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Thanks to all for the suggestions, comments, support!

I was in the process of recreating the standby database...long story...and 
didn't
realize that I was on the production server when I went to copy my standby 
control
files to the appropriate directories.

After spending an hour and a half trying to do the easy recover, we ended up 
doing a
full recover of the database.  Since I had restarted the database after it 
crashed and
it thought it was a standby database, the system datafiles were messed up.  I'm 
sure
there was a better solution, but we did what we knew would work.

Yes, that practicing of recovery is a really good idea...even if you think you 
know what
you're doing, you should practice, practice, practice!

- Maureen

On 7/14/2014 4:21 PM, Kenny Payton wrote:
Maureen,

Hopefully you were able to recover from the mishap.  I learned a similar lesson 
early on in my career, maybe 3 months
into my first DBA job, where I over wrote production datafiles while cloning to 
a lessor environment.  I made two
changes following this mishap, I started included including the sid name in my 
datafiles ( when using filesystems ) and
committed to practicing backup and restore scenarios.

The biggest key here has already been stated, the best thing you can do is try 
to stay calm and proceed carefully.

Best of luck,
Kenny



On Jul 14, 2014, at 6:55 PM, Riyaj Shamsudeen 
<riyaj.shamsudeen@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:riyaj.shamsudeen@xxxxxxxxx> 
<mailto:riyaj.shamsudeen@xxxxxxxxx>> wrote:

Hi
 Recovery will start from the current state of the datafile, as he will have to 
use the backup control file option.
So, yesterday's archive log files are not required at all. However, to avoid 
data loss, he must apply current online
redo log file also.

Cheers

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On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 3:49 PM, 
<rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx<mailto:rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx> 
<mailto:rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx>> wrote:

   How much is the redo volume between yesterday and today
   One really safe option would be to get controlfile from yesterday and recover
   As the datafiles already have the changes I suspect the recovery will go 
pretty fast

   Regards



   -----Original Message-----
   From: Maureen English [mailto:maureen.english@xxxxxxxxxx 
<mailto:maureen.english@xxxxxxxxxx>]
   Sent: Monday, July 14, 2014 6:48 PM
   To: Pande, Rajendra; andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx> 
<mailto:andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx>
   Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
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   Subject: Re: Controlfiles just got overwritten

   I have a backup of the controlfiles from yesterday...it was in recreating 
the standby that caused my problem...I
   was on the wrong server.

   - Maureen

   On 7/14/2014 2:41 PM, rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx<mailto:rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx> 
<mailto:rajendra.pande@xxxxxxx> wrote:
   > If you create the controlfile now you will need to run rudimentary
   > recovery and then open database with reset logs
   >
   > Can you not failover to DR and then rebuild the primary
   >
   > Or open the DR make the old primary new DR and then do a switch again
   >
   >
   > Regards
   >
   >
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