Mogens You know a lot more about pricing. Microsoft has priced support and upgrade rights separately for years. Do you think Oracle split the = pricing like this so people doing Oracle vs. SQL Server comparisons would = understand the issues more clearly? Personally I can't fathom why an Oracle = customer would not purchase both. Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. dwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxxx=20 -----Original Message----- From: Mogens N=F8rgaard [mailto:mln@xxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2004 6:47 PM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: Re: Undo Retention of 5 days; anyone? If you go to www.oracle.com and type in "pricing" in the search field=20 you'll find there's a new US commercial price list dated January 23,=20 2004 plus a new Software Investment Guide dated February 3, 2004. Nothing changed regarding the prices of SE and EE and Support and=20 Upgrade Rights: If you buy software for $100, then you can purchase=20 upgrade rights for $15 and Support (including access to Metalink) for = $7. What Oracle doesn't state clearly anywhere that I know of is the fact=20 that you don't have to buy both Support and Upgrade Rights. They're=20 separate products, so if you, say, don't want to continue to pay for=20 support of Trusted Oracle server or SQL*Menu 5.0 (real example I saw a=20 few hours ago - Danish customer), since nobody will be able to help you = anyway, you don't have to anymore. That all changed on December 16, = 1999. Mogens ryan.gaffuri@xxxxxxx wrote: >i thought the support contract was x% of the value of your license fee/year? doesnt that include metalink?=20 > =20 > >>From: Mladen Gogala <mladen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>Date: 2004/02/13 Fri PM 12:21:18 EST >>To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Subject: Re: Undo Retention of 5 days; anyone? >> >>On 02/13/2004 11:07:42 AM, Juan Cachito Reyes Pacheco wrote: >> =20 >> >>>We don't have metalink support >>> =20 >>> >>Whaddya mean that you don't have metalink support? Any customer >>that purchased oracle thru legal channels and even some that have >>purchased it from a van on the Houston Street in NYC are entitled >>to metalink access. Contact your friendly neighborhood oracle >>pusher (repersentative). >>---------------------------------------------------------------- >>Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >>---------------------------------------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. >>-- >>Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ >>FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html >>----------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> =20 >> > >---------------------------------------------------------------- >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com >---------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. >-- >Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ >FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html >----------------------------------------------------------------- > > =20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------