Re: Undo Retention of 5 days; anyone?

  • From: "Arup Nanda" <orarup@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2004 22:25:54 -0500

Standby is not an option because:

(1) additional space requirement
(2) the ETL script that is supposed to get the data as of a specific time
(which can be as much as 24 hours ago) expects that. The 5 day requirement
is merely to ensure that DW programmers have some leeway when the script
fails, particularly over the weekend, especially over a long weekend, and
after the recovery period from long trips.

In case you are wondering about the reason #2, they are not covered by the
24X7 policy! And God said - let there be flashback!





----- Original Message ----- 
From: <babette.turnerunderwood@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 9:22 AM
Subject: RE: Undo Retention of 5 days; anyone?


> Dumb question...=20
>
> Why not have a stand-by database that is always 5 - 6 days behind ?
> If you need to get the information from 5 days ago, put standby in read =
> mode and select it from across a database link.
>
> Babette Turner-Underwood
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx =
> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Connor McDonald
> Sent: 2004-02-12 1:15 AM
> To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Undo Retention of 5 days; anyone?
>
>
> I'd say the issue is not "5 days", but how much is "5 days worth of =
> transactions". If there is
> lots (of txns) thats sounds like a very very big undo tablespace...It =
> might almost be easier just
> to have 5 copies of the database, marked "today", "today-minus-one" etc =
> - which would be far
> quicker to query :-)
>
> Cheers
> Connor
>
>  --- Arup Nanda <orarup@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > List,
> > I have a very unusual request from users to have UNDO_RETENTION set to =
> 5 days. Normally I set to
> > about 5 hours, not days. Don't ask why. They have inherited a bad =
> design that requires flashing
> > back to 5 days ago and, no, they can't redesign it.
> >=20
> > I'm curious if anyone has actually done it, i.e setting it to a very =
> high value. Any input will
> > be highly appreciated.
> >=20
> > Thanks a lot in advance.
> >=20
> > Arup
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