Hi, For the third year in a row, I'm bringing Jonathan Lewis to Ann Arbor, MI, to do his three-day seminar. The seminar is geared towards DBAs, designers, and senior developers. If you want to understand how Oracle works, how to troubleshoot problems, and how to analyze the usefulness of various database features as they relate to your application, this is the seminar for you. I won't clog the list with the full-page of details. Those who are interested, please drop me an email to mark@xxxxxxxxx (NOT my subscribed address) and I'll send you full details. Who: Jonathan Lewis When: Nov 17-19, 2004 Where: Ann Arbor, MI Details: mail to mark@xxxxxxxxx Seminar outline: http://www.jlcomp.demon.co.uk/seminar.html Thanks, -Mark PS Yes, I asked Jared, he said it'd be ok if I posted this. PPS If you want details, DON'T hit reply to this email. Hit Forward, then enter 'mark@xxxxxxxxx'. PPPS This year, we'll be featuring a well-known special guest. Identity to be revealed when details are confirmed! Mark J. Bobak Oracle DBA ProQuest Company Ann Arbor, MI "Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc"