RE: Thoughts on patch install wording

  • From: "Walker, Jed S" <Jed_Walker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: ORACLE-L <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2012 14:55:06 +0000

FYI - Oracle says I can and should install both the CRS and RDBMS portion of 
this patch.

-----Original Message-----
From: Walker, Jed S 
Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 10:42 AM
To: ORACLE-L
Cc: Walker, Jed S
Subject: RE: Thoughts on patch install wording

Oracle has opened a bug against the readme Bug 14542051 - README OF PATCH 
13440962: FOR LINUX X86-64 11.2.0.3 IS INCORRECT

I'm still waiting for clarification about whether it requires grid or grid/db 
patching.

- Jed


-----Original Message-----
From: Walker, Jed S
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 8:45 AM
To: ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Thoughts on patch install wording

The issue is with the wording and whether or not I need to do the RDBMS portion 
of the patch. It is a patch so it'll apply into the existing home oracle 
/oracle/11.2.0.3

I have opened an SR and will respond when Oracle answers.

-----Original Message-----
From: Patterson, Joel [mailto:Joel.Patterson@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 8:43 AM
To: hemantkchitale@xxxxxxxxx; Walker, Jed S
Cc: ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: Thoughts on patch install wording

Ah yes the fresh install scenario into new home with full software idea....   
brings with a short discussion and discovery of how you wish to deal with your 
possibly new OFA.

I wrestled with this awhile and decide to use a 5 digit home   
.../product/11.2.0.3.3/dbhome.  BTW Notice that I do not use dbhome_1, dbhome_2 
as I had no reasons yet.   Here is a scenario that helped resolve why.

For instance to go from 11.2.0.1.0 to 11.2.0.3.3 you have to go to 11.2.0.3.0 
first.  (this means installing 112010 software in /product/11.2.0.3.1 and 
/product/11.2.0.3.3 and applying 112033 to /product/11.2.0.3.3

This allows you to 'actually upgrade 'one' database at a time (assuming 
multiple 112010 databases)
A database could go to 11.2.0.3.0, and then to 11.2.0.3.3.   

Otherwise after the first database goes to 11.2.0.3.3 -- your stuck, because 
the second database has to go to 11.2.0.3.0 first... so it has to have a place 
to go....

So in order to have the flexibility to do all of them or one of them from now 
on... I chose a different home for every version.



Joel Patterson
Database Administrator
904 727-2546

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Hemant K Chitale
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:08 PM
To: Jed_Walker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: ORACLE-L
Subject: Re: Thoughts on patch install wording

"upgraded to 11.2.0.1" implies that the RDBMS HOME has been upgraded from 10.x 
or 9.1

An RDBMS Home is never "upgraded to 11.2.0.x".  11.2.0.x is always a fresh 
install as an ORACLE_HOME.  (although you can do a fresh install of
11.2.0.1 and then upgrade that HOME to 11.2.0.3, the recommendation is that 
even 11.2.0.3 would be a fresh install).

It is the database that get's upgraded, not the RDBMS HOME.

Very badly worded instructions.

Hemant

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:39 AM, Walker, Jed S <Jed_Walker@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> wrote:

> This will probably be an SR to be sure about it, but I'm wondering if 
> anyone has seen this and knows already.
> I have an 11.2.0.3.0 RAC built from scratch as 11.2.0.3.0. I have a 
> patch to install (patch 13440962) and the patch says:
>
> #    Note: The RDBMS portion can only be applied to an RDBMS home that
> #          has been upgraded to *11.2.0.1.0*.
>
> This would lead me to believe I do not want to do the RDBMS portion in 
> my case, because I was never at 11.2.0.1.0.
> I'm assuming that means I can't and shouldn't apply it to mine, but 
> the wording certainly could be clearer.
> It might also mean, that in my case, if I try to apply it it will just 
> fail and say you don't need it, that would be fine.
>
> Has anyone applied this patch and know exactly what they mean?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jed
>
>
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