> Skippy steaks need to be either very very very rare or cooked > slow and long - like most game. Norm, if you get the option, always go for the well-done version. Unless you fancy toxoplasmosis with your dinner :-). And to keep this on topic, I second the earlier poster's comment about trying it at the Walkabout Bar in Birmingham if you're travelling to UKOUG ... you know a town's pubs aren't up to scratch when us Aussies decide the only way to get a decent drink is to open our own pub :-) Ciao Fuzzy :-) -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l