Think of Star Wars and "use the force Luke"...that 'sense' of knowing what is going on around you and tapping an inner strength. =20 Some call DBA's the "Dark Side" but I feel that SA's are the Dark Side=20 -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Knight, Jon Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 9:16 PM To: 'Oracle-L@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: The force? In the "deleted *.dbf files" thread, Les said: (BTW I have been an SA in past lives so I do have somewhat of a concept of the job...that was until I encountered the 'force' and switched to a DBA) You gotta expand on that Les! I always need good material I can use against our SAs }-). Jon Knight -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l