I thought I'd use this thread as an opportunity to announce that Hotsos will be sponsoring CJ Date in Dallas on Oct. 19-20, 2005. He'll be delivering his two-part seminar based largely on his book (attendees get a copy). To get more information, see http://www.hotsos.com/events/DD201.php?event_id=62. Karen Morton Hotsos Enterprises, Ltd. http://www.hotsos.com -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l