Hi, Ken Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC (SFRAC) with Global Cluster Option (GCO) together with storage layer replication (VVR from Symantec, SRDF from EMC...) is sure a valid Disaster Recovery (DR) solution. You can look for details from pre-sales of Symantec. James On 10/30/07, ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx <ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Tim- > > I'm not sure what you're trying to get at, and don't really see why you > wouldn't come right out and say it, but anyway.. > > So, the particular solution that I'm looking at employs a Global > Clustering Option. So, whatever happens at the primary site to cause a > failure (earthquake, wild fire, etc..) that the company deems as an outage, > would kick off the remote site to come online as the primary database. > > Ken > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: Tim Gorman <tim@xxxxxxxxx> > Would an earthquake level just part of a data center? Do wildfires only > burn the 3rd server in a rack and not the 4th, sparing the storage in the > next cabinet over? > > In what way does RAC (or any clustering solution, such as SFOR) protect > against such threats? > > > > > ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > Tim, > > As Finn mentioned, I'm looking at this to provide HA. This is for a > location in SoCal, so its prone to earthquakes, and most recently, wild > fires. > > Ken > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > From: "Finn Jorgensen" <finn.oracledba@xxxxxxxxx><finn.oracledba@xxxxxxxxx> > Tim, > > RAC/SFOR/HACMP/VCS etc are for high availability. Not disaster recovery. > As such, it's for the type of "disasters" that involve losing 1 server. > Anything else you would need a DR setup to handle. > > Finn > > > On 10/29/07, Tim Gorman <tim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > Well......out of all the possible (and probable) range of faults and > > failures, exactly what types of "disasters" does clustering such as RAC or > > SFOR protect against? > > > > > > ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > >It has to be a very selective disaster for clustering (i.e. RAC, HACMP, > > etc) to provide much protection. > > > > Tim- > > > > Sorry, I don't understand what that means. > > > > Ken > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: Tim Gorman <tim@xxxxxxxxx> <tim@xxxxxxxxx> > > It has to be a very selective disaster for clustering (i.e. RAC, HACMP, > > etc) to provide much protection. > > > > > > ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote: > > > > Dan, thanks for the feedback. > > > > We're trying to protect more than just the Oracle DB. While CRS and > > Dataguard work well to provide HA, it doesn't take into account the Siebel, > > IIS, etc installs that form the entire application stack. > > > > With this solution, we're hoping to lower the TCO in the event of a > > disaster. > > > > Ken > > > > > > -------------- Original message -------------- > > From: Dan Norris <dannorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> <dannorris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > I have used the SFOR previously, but not on the current versions and > > not with 10g DB. I had no problems with the SFOR software. > > > > If I were implementing a cluster today with 10g, I wouldn't use any > > non-Oracle clusterware. Instead, I'd just use Oracle Clusterware as it > > provides all the HA you'll need for the DB. Maybe you have other reasons for > > using SFOR...I hope you do because I couldn't justify the investment given > > the current architecture. > > > > Others have posted similarly on this list and in OTN forums as well. > > > > Dan > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > > From: Ken Nguyen <ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx> <ken_nguyen@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 4:46:05 AM > > Subject: Symantec Storage Foundation for Oracle RAC > > > > We¢re looking to implement Symantec Storage Foundation HA for Oracle > > RAC to offer HA for our Oracle 10g RAC on RHEL. > > > > > > > > Oracle has fully certified most of the components within this Symantec > > solution, except for the automatic failover piece (GCO). > > > > This component is certified on all platforms except for Red Hat, could > > have something to do with Oracle¢s OEL initiative. > > > > > > > > Is anyone using this or any other Symantec SF products without any > > issues? > > > > > > > > Ken > > > > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > >