Re: Speaking of New Features

  • From: Jared Still <jkstill@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: chet.justice@xxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2009 16:07:56 -0700

Not just ugly, it's harder to read.
Specifying name/value pairs in INSERT statements would
be a huge improvement.

Jared Still
Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist



On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:45 AM, chet justice <chet.justice@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> True, that would work.  It's just ugly though...in my opinion anyway.  :)
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 2:38 PM, Daniel Fink 
> <daniel.fink@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>>  In the absence of actual implementation, comments are your friend. Why
>> not use comments to indicate which column you are referencing? Granted it
>> does not totally address the situation of specifying a limited number of
>> columns or and independent order, but it would help when inserting 100
>> columns or so.
>>
>> Pre-column
>> DEMO@dwf10gr2> insert into t2
>>   2  values ( /* c1 */ 12,
>>   3           /* c2 */ 42
>>   4         )
>>   5  /
>>
>> 1 row created.
>>
>> Post-column
>> DEMO@dwf10gr2> insert into t2
>>   2  values ( 12,  -- c1
>>   3           42   -- c2
>>   4*        )
>> DEMO@dwf10gr2> /
>>
>> 1 row created.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Daniel Fink
>>
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>>
>>
>> chet justice wrote:
>>
>> I think I would require the use of the correct column name instead of any
>>> type of positional col-n style labeling.
>>
>>
>>  Agreed.   That was just an example, those are the actual column names.
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Powell, Mark D <mark.powell@xxxxxxx>wrote:
>>
>>>  Well, the suggested syntax below would make matching up a long column
>>> list to the provided values/variables a lot easier and would likely help
>>> prevent listing 100 columns to be inserted but only including 99 variables
>>> in the values list.  I think I would require the use of the correct column
>>> name instead of any type of positional col-n style labeling.
>>>
>>> -- Mark D Powell --
>>> Phone (313) 592-5148
>>>
>>>
>>>  ------------------------------
>>> *From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:
>>> oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Jared Still
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, September 10, 2009 12:04 PM
>>> *To:* chet.justice@xxxxxxxxx
>>> *Cc:* oracle-l
>>> *Subject:* Re: Speaking of New Features
>>>
>>>   Very Perlish.
>>>   I like it.  :)
>>>
>>> Jared Still
>>> Certifiable Oracle DBA and Part Time Perl Evangelist
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 6:37 PM, chet justice <chet.justice@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Any thoughts on the "new" syntax for INSERT statements below?
>>>>
>>>> INSERT INTO my_table
>>>>   ( id => seq.nexval,
>>>>     create_date => SYSDATE,
>>>>     update_date => SYSDATE,
>>>>     col1 => 'A',
>>>>     col2 => 'SOMETHING',
>>>>     col3 => 'SOMETHING',
>>>>     col4 => 'SOMETHING',
>>>>     col5 => 'SOMETHING',
>>>>     col6 => 'SOMETHING',
>>>>     col7 => 'SOMETHING',
>>>>     col8 => 'SOMETHING',
>>>>     col9 => 'SOMETHING',
>>>>     col10 => 'SOMETHING',
>>>>     col11 => 'SOMETHING',
>>>>     col12 => 'SOMETHING',
>>>>     col13 => 'SOMETHING',
>>>>     col14 => 'SOMETHING' );
>>>>
>>>> Thought of one day while trying to clean up (make human readable)
>>>> someone else's code.  I would either get too many values or not enough.
>>>> After copying the INSERT columns and subsequent VALUES clause into an Excel
>>>> spreadsheet to compare them side by side, I thought, hey, what about named
>>>> notation?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, I created the "Idea" on Oracle Mix 
>>>> here<https://mix.oracle.com/ideas/94278-position-insert-syntax>if you are 
>>>> inclined to, one way or another, to vote.
>>>>
>>>> chet
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> chet justice
>>>> www.oraclenerd.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>
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>> chet justice
>> www.oraclenerd.com
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> chet justice
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