Yes "ALTER SYSTEM ..." is logged in alert.log, But you can also see it in "update_comment" column of v$parameter Igor Neyman, OCP DBA ineyman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Post, Ethan Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 10:46 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Shooting yourself in the spfile Wouldn't it be in the alert logs? -----Original Message----- From: Igor Neyman [mailto:ineyman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:11 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Shooting yourself in the spfile Actually you don't have to have Word document to keep track of changes. There is "UPDATE_COMMENT" column in v$parameter, and you set it "COMMENT" clause when you run ALTER SYSTEM SET ... COMMENT='whatever' SCOPE=... Well, there is a limitation of 255 characters for comment. Igor Neyman, OCP DBA ineyman@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Mercadante, Thomas F Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:54 AM To: 'oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx' Subject: RE: Shooting yourself in the spfile Niall, Aren't you glad that you still have the init.ora file? :) As for the SPfile, Chris's example is the only one that I've seen so far that makes any sense for using the Spfile. When you are managing hundreds of databases across many remote sites, the Spfile makes sense. I just wish that the Spfile had a way of documenting when something was changed. When I change the Init.ora, I leave notes within the file detailing what changed and when for histories sake. The Spfile is just a mish-mash of the params not suitable for viewing. So now, I would need to update two things - the Spfile (via OEM or SqlPLus) and a Word document keeping track off changes. I'm not sure if this is better or worse. Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -----Original Message----- From: Niall Litchfield [mailto:n-litchfield@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:36 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Shooting yourself in the spfile Don't you just love it when a demo goes even better than you anticipated ORA-00381: cannot use both new and old parameters for buffer cache size spe= cification SQL> oops SP2-0042: unknown command "oops" - rest of line ignored. SQL> create spfile from pfile 2 ; create spfile from pfile * ERROR at line 1: ORA-00600: internal error code, arguments: [908], [], [], [], [], [], [], [] :(=20 Niall Litchfield Oracle DBA Audit Commission +44 117 975 7805=20 ********************************************************************** This email contains information intended for the addressee only. It may be confidential and may be the subject of legal and/or professional privilege. 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