Perhaps if I were a junior DBA and I blindly applied parameter changes to multiple databases then this would be a problem. To clarify, I am not refering to Jonathan's specific situation. Obviously, before you apply any change across a couple hundred databases then you do some thorough testing. Assuming your configurations are the same then you should not have a problem. And yes, on occasion you will hit a problem database, so you go fix it. As for your example, even if you made these changes in a pfile, wouldn't you get the same result?? So then you would fix it, either in the pfile or spfile, and bring the database up. Is that not true? I still stand behind MHO. Spfiles are not pfiles, therefore you have to change your way of thinking and your "SOPs". (psssstt) -----Original Message----- From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Niall Litchfield Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 9:34 AM To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: Shooting yourself in the spfile I'd buy that if it wasn't so easy to do what Jonathan said for example SQL> alter system set db_cache_size=3D50m scope=3Dspfile; System altered. SQL> alter system set db_block_buffers=3D2000 scope=3Dspfile; System altered. SQL> startup force; ORA-00381: cannot use both new and old parameters for buffer cache size spe= cification SQL> oops Niall Litchfield Oracle DBA Audit Commission +44 117 975 7805=20 ********************************************************************** This email contains information intended for the addressee only. It may be confidential and may be the subject of legal and/or professional privilege. Any dissemination, distribution, copyright or use of this communication without prior permission of the sender is strictly prohibited. ********************************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html ----------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com ---------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe send email to: oracle-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx put 'unsubscribe' in the subject line. -- Archives are at //www.freelists.org/archives/oracle-l/ FAQ is at //www.freelists.org/help/fom-serve/cache/1.html -----------------------------------------------------------------