RE: SQL *Net more data from client - waiting too long

  • From: <Joel.Patterson@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <niall.litchfield@xxxxxxxxx>, <Andrew.Kerber@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 14:26:03 -0500

I agree with you Niall,   having said that I see what Andrew is saying.   This 
is the second company I have worked for where I am the only DBA.  Besides 
straightening up what I see; to conform to at least my standards, interruptions 
to the day abound, from the most recent time zone change, to well... if it 
pertains to databases, then I am defacto involved.  So one can find themselves 
in a position where if you were to start spending time with the app issues, you 
may spend to much time leaving yourself at risk because some important DBA 
things did not get set up in time.    If you get to many DBA's (like six or 
so), then some will tend to specialize.


However Consider coming full circle to what you are saying Niall.  When the 
database is slow, (read app), who is going to be on the job then?  Yes you, and 
at inconvenient times, so just get it over with.   Now if Andrew can teach or 
offload a lot of that tuning, the better... Hmmm, I wonder if I had a 
opportunity in politics? 


My £0.02  (that's like two cents, but just a little more valuable)  :-)


P.S.  In my case I might add, I also have SQL*Server, which I try and ignore 
:-)   -- No, I really do try.

--  As I recently read:

Oracle means 'all knowing'.... SQL server means, well, nothing really.


Joel Patterson 
Database Administrator 
904  727-2546 


From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Niall Litchfield
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2007 1:55 PM
To: Kerber, Andrew
Cc: dd.yakkali@xxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: SQL *Net more data from client - waiting too long


On 1/9/07, Kerber, Andrew <Andrew.Kerber@xxxxxxx> wrote:

        It also means its not a problem w/ Oracle, it's a problem with the 

Absolutely not picking on Andrew here, since this and some of the implications 
are a common view, but am I the only one to think that the distinction is 
somewhat false. Technically a bad app is not my problem as a DBA, but 
professionally and in reality I view it as my problem to diagnose, report and 
offer solution with applications. In other words I see application level design 
and performance problems as part of my purview. What do others think? 
Niall Litchfield
Oracle DBA 

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