Hey Bruce, > Re SQL Developer cost, see > http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/datamodeler/html/data > modelerfaq.html#free > > HTH, > Bruce Reardon The naming is confusing -- that's in regards to SQL Developer, while I was looking for SQL Developer Data Modeler, which is far from free. Thanks, Rich -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l