Maybe I'm missing something, but if you use SQLcl as a client and connect
from your laptop it gets past any issues of red tape, security clearance,
etc.
Dave
On Thu, Jan 4, 2018 at 9:56 AM, Neil Chandler <neil_chandler@xxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Jeff,
The main traction against sqlci isn't the several seconds to start rather
than pretty much instant sqlplus (this becomes a factor when calling
sqlplus multiple times in a loop), nor the fact it's far superior to
sql*plus, but the red tape, security clearance, patching, etc, required to
get new software (especially the Java component) onto the all of the DB
servers. That pretty much nobody is using 12.2 in Production yet compounds
it, so the red tape is required. There's nothing you can do about this that
time won't cure except make the sqlci case increasingly compelling.
I use vi and sqlplus because they are guaranteed to be there. If I was a
perm DBA in a company long-term, I'd probably raise the paperwork to get it
onto every DB server purely for the automatic column size adjustments if
nothing else. Love that.
Neil Chandler
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*From:* Jeff Smith <jeff.d.smith@xxxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 04 January 2018 15:11
*To:* neil_chandler@xxxxxxxxxxx; oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx;
gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* RE: SQL Command list history on Linux
Slow to start? Maybe a second, or 3? If it’s taking longer than that,
please let me know.
Java 8u50 or higher will be ok, which is about 2-2.5 years old?
It’s a 20mb or so download, so takes less than a minute to install if you
don’t have it. Less time than it takes maybe to setup rlwrap…esp if you’re
on Windows.
*From:* Neil Chandler [mailto:neil_chandler@xxxxxxxxxxx]
*Sent:* Thursday, January 04, 2018 7:59 AM
*To:* oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx; gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: SQL Command list history on Linux
Mladen,
What has that go to do with the original posters question?
If you are developing PL/SQL in SQL*Plus, you're probably not doing it
efficiently. SQL Developer is the better (free) tool for that, regardless
of platform.
SQLCI is great, but it's slow to start, requires a fairly recent Java
release, and only natively available from 12.2.
If you want Windows-like editing on a Linux SQL*Plus (or dgmgrl, rman or
whatever), use rlwrap.
regards
Neil Chandler.
Database Guy.
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*From:* oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
behalf of Mladen Gogala <gogala.mladen@xxxxxxxxx>
*Sent:* 04 January 2018 10:57
*To:* oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* Re: SQL Command list history on Linux
On 01/02/2018 04:51 PM, Neil Chandler wrote:
Jeff,
My preferred solution is to install "rlwrap" [ e.g. "yum install rlwrap" -
check out https://github.com/hanslub42/rlwrap
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] it provides similar functionality to a windows CMD environment. You just
call the command you want to use via rlwrap
e.g. rlwrap sqlplus, or rlwrap dgmgrl
To keep thing simple, you can alias it
alias rsql='rlwrap sqlplus'
alias rdg='rlwrap dgmgrl'
regards
Neil Chandler
Hi Neil,
Rlwrap is not an equivalent solution. The "rlwrap" trick breaks editing of
PL/SQL code, which can be annoying. If you write a multi-line PL/SQL
snippet and something goes wrong, "ed" will only return a part of the
snippet. SQLCl will do the right thing and give you back the entire
procedure. It has a primitive screen editor built into the code because
arrow keys also work when editing the history commands. Also, SQLCl has
"REPEAT" command which turns your SQLCl session into an instant monitor, if
necessary. In addition to all that, there is Jeff Smith, who has been doing
an outstanding job with the product and explaining it on this list. Jeff is
extremely helpful and a very nice guy. And no, I don't work for Oracle
Corp. and I don't plan on working for Oracle anytime soon.
Regards
--
Mladen Gogala
Oracle DBA
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