Re: Remote DBA

  • From: Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: Kellyn Pedersen <kjped1313@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 27 Sep 2010 14:42:29 -0500

And how well would you have done working from home when the children were 2,
5, and 8?  'Daddy he hit me...'.

On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 1:39 PM, Kellyn Pedersen <kjped1313@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:

> "If the remote has young kids at home, it is likely to be very difficult
> for him or her to be able to work effectively unless there is another adult
> there to keep an eye on the children."
> This subject always peeks my interest, as I work from home approximately 20
> hrs. per week.  I'm a combination of both the ticket closer and the lone
> ranger type, appreciating small tasks to finish quick and challenging
> mysteries to solve, so this discussion gave great discription of why I have
> never had an issue working from home.
> I would have to say that Andrew's comment is a necessity if the children
> are young and if teens are home due to after school/out of school
> situations, the remote DBA must guarantee that they have an office separate
> from the family area to work in.
> My three children, (ages 10, 13 and 15) have the library where their
> computer workstations and media area is set up and I avoid the location like
> the plague if I'm working.  I have my office on a separate floor and as
> lucky as I am to have incredibly independent children, their inane banter is
> still very distracting, (has never been scientifically proven, but may
> disolve braincells, too, which I can't afford... :))
> As for a positive vote on remote DBA work to the company-  I can honestly
> say that my manager gets a good 3 or 4 more hours out of me a day than he
> would if I were in the office.  One, I don't have the commute to and from
> the office, which I apply towards working.  Two, I have a tendency to lose
> track of time and continue to work past 7 or 8pm until one of the kids comes
> and tracks me down to tell me I better cook dinner or they are ordering
> pizza with one of my credit cards.
> Kellyn Pedersen
> Sr. Database Administrator
> I-Behavior Inc.
> --- On *Mon, 9/27/10, Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx>* wrote:
> From: Andrew Kerber <andrew.kerber@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: Remote DBA
> To: Richard.Goulet@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc: cicciuxdba@xxxxxxxxx, "oracle-l-freelists" <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Monday, September 27, 2010, 9:20 AM
> I have worked very well remotely.  I have worked with people who should not
> work remotely.
> Unfortunately, here in the US, some of the questions that need to be asked
> about someone working from home cannot legally be asked.  For example, if
> someone is working from home, you really need to know who else is in the
> house.  If the remote has young kids at home, it is likely to be very
> difficult for him or her to be able to work effectively unless there is
> another adult there to keep an eye on the children.
> On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Goulet, Richard <
> Richard.Goulet@xxxxxxxxxxx<>
> > wrote:
>  Alan,
>     Well, I will agree with others on the list that working from home
> takes a person with very good time management skills and discipline.  I've
> done the work from home thing and still do when Mother Nature makes a real
> mess up here in the winter and it's hard to concentrate on work when home
> projects beckon or the cat decides she wants to sleep on your lap.  I do it,
> but their not exactly my most productive days.  If your going to hire people
> who will be remotely located like this it's best to have someone manage them
> who is familiar with the concept and how to manage it.  I've worked for a
> manager who didn't know how to do that, mandated that I work from home at
> least 2 days a week, and made me miserable in the process never mind the
> customer that I was actually working for.
>     As to hiring someone you've never personally met, sure.  We've two in
> Hyderabad right now, one of which no one here has ever met in person.  Damn
> good technician too.  And yes we did verify references and work experience.
> If you don't want to do that then why are you bothering with an interview??
> Once saw a resume for an individual who claimed to have played 2 seasons
> with the Boston Celtics.  Problem was that he was about 4 foot 6 inches.
> Didn't exactly pass the smoke test, now does it.
>     As for hiring or contracting with a service provider your basically
> hiring a consultant who does DBA services.  The more important point here is
> what does the statement of work say and how do the service providers
> references stack up.  Good people sometimes work for poor providers which
> can make for a bad experience and a poorly written SOW is not the provider's
> problem.
> Dick Goulet
> Senior Oracle DBA/NA Team Lead
> PAREXEL International
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> *On Behalf Of *Guillermo Alan Bort
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 26, 2010 5:27 PM
> *To:* oracle-l-freelists
> *Subject:* Remote DBA
>   Hi List,
>     I've been reading a lot about remote DBA services, these appear to be
> companies based on different locations that provide customers with DBA
> services while having all the DBAs physically in one location (or a limited
> number of locations). These services are usually hired by companies whose
> primary focus isn't IT.
>     My question now is...would this work in reverse? Having several DBAs
> working out of their own homes in whatever city or country they want for a
> single company (or for one of the remote DBA services)? I understand the
> complexities of having people without Green Cards or working VISAS working
> for US based companies, even if they are now physically in the US.
>     This one may be for recruiters or decision makers: Would you hire
> somebody you've never met (or met only by phone) who lives in another
> country (worst case) and whose experience you can't verify if they asked for
> half of what an on-site DBA would?
> Thanks in advance
> Alan.-
> --
> Andrew W. Kerber
> 'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.'

Andrew W. Kerber

'If at first you dont succeed, dont take up skydiving.'

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