RE: Re[2]: An Oracle Utilities Pocket Reference?

Brian McGraw <brian.mcgraw@xxxxxxxxx> · Fri, 25 Jun 2004 14:25:08 -0500

Heck... For a mention in the credits, I'll fax you a copy of mine,
Jonathan... :)

Brian

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Jonathan
   What goes in would need to be prioritized. And clever formatting might
help. Perhaps some of us can give you some feedback on what we go to the
manual for. Obviously if certain details are needed then we would surf for
it. Here is my list, in priority order:

1. SQL Command -- If you can't recall the command, you can't surf for it.
Having a handy book to thumb through would help find the command.
2. A single syntax example. Just a common way of using the command.
3. Railroad syntax diagram. This is where the clever formatting would help.

If a manual had just that, I would toss my 7.3 manual. I could dig anything
further out of the Oracle manual if I needed it.

Does spiral bound cost more to manufacture? I like the lay-flat idea.

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
dwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
I said it "looked" clear - Riddick

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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jonathan Gennick
Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 2:01 PM
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Subject: Re[2]: An Oracle Utilities Pocket Reference?

So many keep asking for a SQL syntax quick-ref. Will all
that syntax fit into a pocket book? I'll have to take
another look at the feasibility of doing such a thing.

Best regards,

Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are
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Friday, June 25, 2004, 2:18:19 PM, DENNIS WILLIAMS (DWILLIAMS@xxxxxxxxxxxxx)
wrote:
DW> Chris
DW>    My thoughts exactly on the 7.3 SQL Manual. Jonathan does publish a
DW> generic SQL manual. Perhaps someone can comment whether they've retired
DW> their 7.3 SQL manual in favor of that.

DW> Dennis Williams
DW> DBA
DW> Lifetouch, Inc.
DW> dwilliams@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
DW> I said it "looked" clear - Riddick

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DW> From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
DW> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Grabowy, Chris
DW> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 1:12 PM
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DW> Subject: RE: An Oracle Utilities Pocket Reference?

DW> My biggest gripe with the Pocket References is that you have to break
DW> the binding to get the dang thing to lay down and not close up on you.
DW> Perhaps a spiral binding would work better.  

DW> Oracle Utils pocket reference would be good.  But most of my fellow
DW> DBAs, and I, miss the old Oracle 7.3 quick SQL reference guide.  Most of
DW> the time we know the command, but just cant remember the exact syntax.

DW> -----Original Message-----
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DW> [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Jonathan Gennick
DW> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 11:25 AM
DW> To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
DW> Subject: An Oracle Utilities Pocket Reference?

DW> Some of you may know that I work I work for O'Reilly Media,
DW> editing some of their Oracle titles. We've been batting
DW> around the idea of publishing an Oracle Utilities Pocket
DW> Reference. On the one hand, a small, concise book to remind
DW> one of the syntax for such utilities as oradebug, expdp,
DW> imp, sqlldr, orapwd, tkprof, and so forth seems like a
DW> useful thing. On the other hand, many of these utilities
DW> come with online help. For example, you can issue "exp
DW> help=y" to get a quick summary of export options. Maybe a
DW> pocket reference would not add enough additional value to be
DW> worth its price.

DW> So I'd like to put the question to all of you, would a
DW> utilities pocket reference be useful? Is it something you
DW> would be likely to buy and use? If you could have any pocket
DW> reference (or I guess any book for that matter) you wanted
DW> to make your DBA job easier, what would that be?

DW> Best regards,

DW> Jonathan Gennick --- Brighten the corner where you are
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