(Re) ?? wierd cold fusion programmers ??

  • From: "ryan gaffuri" <ryan.gaffuri@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 21:02:35 -0400

The market for people with Top Secret Clearances is 'insane'. There are job
fairs just for them. My company has signs up in our building practically
begging us to recruit them. A guy on my project was cleared by another part
of the company and recruited away from us. He says he basically has to work
out of cage. No internet. No phone. No calls from spouses. Nothing goes in
or out, but its ultimate job security.

Now Secret clearances don't seem to be too hot. You can get an 'interim' in
2 weeks and work on secret projects before having it completed. However, 80%
of the DC Oracle market appears to be non-citizens and therefore inelligible
for them. Seems like the Oracle market is far weaker than some other
skills(accept for people with Datawarehouse experience). Java seems to be
pretty strong and so does .Net. I think partially because you need so many
of these guys on a project... We have like 60-70 Java people and 10 Oracle
people. I have been told the straight C/C++ market is horrible.

Never seen it quite that bad though... I think its all those history and
economic lessons you give out that scares people away or stories about your
topless neighbors.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "david wendelken" <davewendelken@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, August 12, 2004 8:13 PM
Subject: ?? wierd cold fusion programmers ??



> Out of 4 individuals brought onto the project as a Cold Fusion programmer
this year, one felt that coming in to work 50% of the time and working
**precisely 8 hours to the minute** the rest of the time was perfectly
acceptable behavior.  The one that replaced him has been great to work with.
:)
>
> Then we got an ok to add an extra Cold Fusion programmer.  One came to
work on the first day 2 1/2 hours late, stayed for 2 hours, then left and
never came back.  The next came and stayed for an entire day, then left and
never came back.
>
> Has the Cold Fusion market for programmers been so hot that this is normal
behavior for them?  Maybe the government market for people with clearances
is that different from the commercial world I'm used to?  Or did I just get
a statistical fluke after 20 some years in the industry?
>
> Maybe I should drop Oracle and switch to Cold Fusion and while away half
my time chasing the wife around the house instead of going to work!
>
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