Hemant, You have to admit that this may never be available. Think about it. You will be migrating to new releases about 4 times between now and 5 years from now. Rman version 13x would probably choke and puke anyway when it tried to restore the version 9i controlfile! :) Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -----Original Message----- From: Hemant K Chitale [mailto:hkchital@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 11:10 AM To: thomas.mercadante@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: RMAN-NetBackup without an RMAN Catalog What I would like to be able to do is ... 5 years from now, restore _todays_ backup. Wouldn't I be able to use [then, in 2009], SET UNTIL "13-OCT-04" and RESTORE CONTROLFILE ? The "contradiction" I saw was in the Support Analyst's first point " .. its too far away" and then second point "there's no limit with SET UNTIL ...". Hemant At 11:00 PM Wednesday, Mercadante, Thomas F wrote: >Hemant, > >Why does the last part seem self-contradictory? If I read the response >correct, they are saying that you can't restore a control file from a >point in time that does not exist (that you do not have a backup for). > >I agree that there should probably be a logical syntax check. But I'm >guessing that they will leave it up to error reporting to tell you that >the backup does not exist from the 5-year-old time-frame. > >Does this make sense? > >Tom Mercadante >Oracle Certified Professional > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Hemant K Chitale [mailto:hkchital@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx] >Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2004 10:52 AM >To: Smith, Ron L. >Cc: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >Subject: RE: RMAN-NetBackup without an RMAN Catalog > > >Ron, > >Hmm. I saw the reference in the RMAN User Guide to a limit of 366 days >when restoring an AUTOBACKUP CONTROLFILE without a CATALOG. > >However, the Reference Guide on the syntax of the SET UNTIL command >does not specify any restriction. > >In response to my TAR where I stated : >"I am using RMAN with Veritas NetBackup with NO Catalog. CONTROLFILE >AUTOBACKUP ON is configured and the controlfile is being backed up. I >can restore the latest controlfile. However, I wish to be able to >restore >*older* control files -- going as far back as 5 years. Is that possible ? >Does the SET UNTIL clause with RESTORE CONTROLFILE have any limits ?" > >I got this from the Support Analyst : >"UPDATE: >========= >It seems impossible to restore the backup of 5 years ago without >catalog. 1.Can you list up this backup of 5 years ago? -- it seems >impossible because it's too far away. 2.there's no limit with SET UNTIL >clause with RESTORE CONTROLFILE unless the backup set doesn't exist or >the backup record doesn't exist in current controlfile. " >which seems, to me, to be self-contradictory. > Hemant K Chitale http://web.singnet.com.sg/~hkchital -- //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l