My understanding is that you need to have an autobackup of the controlfile in order to restore the controlfile without a catalog. So make sure that you have autobackup turned on for that case where you loose your RMan catalog. Sarah _______________________________ Sarah Satterthwaite Database Administrator Case-Shiller Fiserv Fax: 617-498-0959 www.fiserv.com <http://www.fiserv.com/> **Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail