RE: RMAN Sizing - Anomaly?

  • From: "Newman, Christopher" <cjnewman@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <bbel5@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Weatherman, John" <John.Weatherman@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 15:58:15 -0600

Hello,

Is it possible that you have your BACKUP OPTIMIZATION on and it's
skipping the full database backup because of this?  Just a thought.

- Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bellows, Bambi
(Comsys)
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 3:45 PM
To: Weatherman, John
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Subject: RE: RMAN Sizing - Anomaly?

John --

This was a very good suggestion.  Looks like the database plus
archivelog is just doing the archivelog, which is weird but explains the
numbers.  When I break out database and archivelog, the numbers are
consistent with database only.  Has anyone else seen this type of
behaviour?

Thanks!
Bambi.

-----Original Message-----
From: Weatherman, John [mailto:John.Weatherman@xxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:49 PM
To: Bellows, Bambi (Comsys); oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: RMAN Sizing - Anomaly?

Bambi,

Have you done a "RMAN> list backupset;" to verify what is in each set?
Are all the files really in the "...plus archivelog" backup?  How does a
"RMAN> backup as compressed backupset archivelog all;" look?  

What version is this coming off of?

Thanks,

John

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Bellows, Bambi
(Comsys)
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 1:32 PM
To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RMAN Sizing - Anomaly?


Friends --

I'm at a loss to explain why two nearly identical scripts -- one to
backup the database only and one to backup the database plus archivelog
should have this particular sizing anomaly.  First, here are the
scripts... 

1)
$ORACLE_HOME/bin/rman <<EOF  
connect target;
connect catalog $RMANID/$RMAN@$RMAN_CATDB;

backup as compressed backupset database;
EOF

And 

2)
$ORACLE_HOME/bin/rman <<EOF  
connect target;
connect catalog $RMANID/$RMAN@$RMAN_CATDB;

backup as compressed backupset database plus archivelog;
EOF

Now the results...
Database only: 48 minutes - 39.1GB
Database plus archivelog: 63 minutes - 15.2GB

Why should the database plus archivelog be 40% smaller than the database
without?  I've run this test a bunch of different times, sometimes
setting the incremental level to 0, sometimes not; sometimes running the
db+arch first, sometimes second.  But consistently, the db+arch is
appreciably smaller than the db without.  How come?

Thanks!
Bambi.
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