but probably not by this weekend ! On Fri, May 2, 2014 at 5:08 PM, Mark W. Farnham <mwf@xxxxxxxx> wrote: > And Niall's point about agents is well taken. An average of 120 databases > per server indicates there is probably room for some useful consolidation > and deadwood removal. > > -----Original Message----- > From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Mark W. Farnham > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 12:04 PM > To: donald.freeman.ctr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: 'oracle-l digest users' > Subject: RE: Quick and Dirty Grid Control > > Even if there are network secure fences between some of the five Solaris > servers, it seems like at most you would need to set up 5 independent grid > controls. > > I mention secure fences only because of your email address and the > statement > that discovery was alleged to have previously failed. > > In terms of counting things for humans to manage, 600 is error prone simply > by head count. Five seems a lot more reasonable and if there are security > ring threshold issues one each may be the way to go. If you have a machine > that hosts databases of less stringent availability requirements, having a > pioneer run for a while after a raft of patches before you do the more > critical systems may also be useful. > > mwf > > -----Original Message----- > From: oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:oracle-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of Fuad Arshad (Redacted sender "fuadar@xxxxxxxxx" for DMARC) > Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 11:46 AM > To: donald.freeman.ctr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: oracle-l digest users > Subject: Re: Quick and Dirty Grid Control > > 600 databases are not that many from a grid control or cloud control > perspective . I'm wondering why the comment was made . if you have ovm > running you can down the EM templates and run a discovery . I have had over > 1200 databases being monitored usif em11g grid control where the oms and > repo was running on a tiny SPARC v880 with not many issues > > Fuad > > > > On May 2, 2014, at 8:28, "Freeman, Donald G. CTR (ABL)" > <donald.freeman.ctr@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > The place I work doesn't use grid control. They have about 600 active > > databases in the development regions. We lack hardware infrastructure. > > All of these databases are mounted on five Solaris 10 Servers. Another > DBA > > told me that they previously tried to get Grid Control running but it > > failed on discovery. It couldn't handle that many objects on a > > server. That was some time ago. > > > > I'm about to get drafted (listening over the wall) to patch this > > weekend (I'm not on that team) and I'm not really interested in trying > > to > patch that > > many databases manually, at least not twice. Is there a method to > install > > grid control in some way that it can handle this situation? Can 12C > > handle this? > > > > I would start doing some reading but I'm afraid somebody is going to > > walk around the corner in about 5 minutes and give me, "the look." > > I'm looking for a direction to march in that will fix this going forward. > > > > > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > -- > //www.freelists.org/webpage/oracle-l > > > -- Niall Litchfield Oracle DBA http://www.orawin.info