RE: Questions about automatic memory allocations in 10g (r1 and r2)

  • From: "Kevin Closson" <kevinc@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2005 11:26:42 -0700

 
>       I was in a meeting yesterday with a vendor who told me (and my
manager) their product running on 10gr1 does not 
> need any DBA intervention when used because they are using automatic
memory management and they use "all of physical
> memory ... for the SGA". 
>Now, this person is no Oracle DBA/expert/guru.  He has attended a class
like "New features in 10g" or something like that.  When I questioned
this "use all of physical memory" strategy and how that might affect PGA
usage, he was stumped.

...that this person is no guru is an understatement. that he bought off
on
the marketing patch that 10g needs no human intervention when he
attended
the "New features in 10g" doesn't surprise me at all. Oracle's Marketing
prowess cancels out what little attention to detail the average DBA
seems
to have left anymore. 

Long before the PGA starts to wrestle this supposed total phys mem SGA,
there is amonst other goodies a Kernel, text, page tables, initialized
data,
and stack. 

Even though this non-guru DBA you refer to doesn't know squat about 
what the OSDs do to get shared memory (or what OSDs are), he's likely
try to open a tar when the shmget() fails to create a segment equal
to phys mem. Then, the "support technician" will open the "New 
features in 10g" slideset and try to open a bug against the base! :-)

BTW, I would counsel any IT shop to NOT send ANYONE to an Oracle
"New features in XYZ" class unless they have a minimum of 10 years
production DBA experience. Only the most senior of the IT shop
need to get their heads around the stuff that will be of interest
4 years after it is heralded in a "New features in XYZ" class. 
Otherwise, best of luck when half-baked new features get thrown
into production.

 




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