Re: Q? about interviewing

  • From: david wendelken <davewendelken@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: oracle-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 25 Feb 2005 11:32:10 -0800 (PST)

>if you are going to ask for a raise, you have to be very careful in how you 
>approach them. I have never done it >and i do not know of anyone who has had 
>success doing that. 

Yes you do.  Hi Ryan. :)

Rather than ask for a raise, do your homework and find out compensation trends.
Write up what you've accomplished for the company, highlighting the extra value 
that you've added to the company above and beyond the norm.  If company 
compensation rates are below the area norm, attach that in a very quick to read 
and dirt simple to understand format.

Then, don't ask for a raise.  Ask for a performance review.  ;)  

There's a big psychological difference between the two.

And make sure your write-up helps them connect the dots.   

>i understand your loyalty, but you have to look out for yourself. 
>If the company has financial problems and they plan on getting rid of you or 
>outsourcing your job overseas they will not tell you anything until they are 
>ready to get rid of you. 

Usually, but not always true.  There are ethical managers out there.

It comes down to a character judgment about your boss.   And if you aren't 
totally and completely sure **or** you can't afford to find out you were wrong 
in your character judgment - follow Ryan's advice and keep your mouth shut 
until you have a signed offer letter.




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